Can you take the sidecar off?

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Can you take the sidecar off?

Post by Daisy Cutter » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:08 pm

I've only owned a Ural since Friday of last week and I have noticed something as I tell folks about what I have. Everyone wants to know if the sidecar is detachable. I explain to them that technically it is removable but that the bike is not designed to be used as a solo bike as it is. The more that I am asked the question the more I find myself asking WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD I WANT TO TAKE IT OFF!? I guess some people just aren't into sidecars :loco:
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Re: Can you take the sidecar off?

Post by Mikey » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:11 pm

Maybe it's to have two bikes in one? I'm tempted to see what mine will do without the side car. I see ww2 documentaries with bikes with the 'LL front end riding solo in the mud etc.
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Re: Can you take the sidecar off?

Post by dogboy443 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:17 pm

Because everyone wants to be Batman and Robin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0sTFkPU13Y
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Re: Can you take the sidecar off?

Post by Lokiboy » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:12 pm

Yes, the Sidecar can be removed quite easily. But, you answered your own question, “why would you want to?”

Do a search, others have reported their opinions on riding solo and what they had to do after removing the sidecar.
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Re: Can you take the sidecar off?

Post by rivers » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:18 pm

Sure you can but it's not a quick SUN morning drop the chair for a day ride and a quick bolt up and align the chair SUN evening to ride to work Monday. IMHO not worth the time for a day ride. Big deterrent for me dropping the chair on a Ural with a LL front end is the handling. W/o the tub the steering is really "twitchy" and not a warm-n-fuzzy feeling at all. If you're running hyd tele forks different handling is not a big deal.
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Re: Can you take the sidecar off?

Post by Lokiboy » Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:36 pm

Oh, and don’t forget, in, I’d bet, all states you need to have turn signals on both sides, which you won’t have once the hack is removed.
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Re: Can you take the sidecar off?

Post by Daisy Cutter » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:53 pm

I wasn't seriously asking guys... more pointing out that I find it odd that that's everyone's first question. Like "Cool, but can you take the sidecar off?"
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Re: Can you take the sidecar off?

Post by Mr Wazzock » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:28 pm

I have to agree, I haven't been asked that.
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Re: Can you take the sidecar off?

Post by chaos2 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:51 pm

A couple times I've ridden my BMW K75s and people that have seen the Ural say "hey, you took the sidecar off"
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Re: Can you take the sidecar off?

Post by hotflash44 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:01 pm

rivers wrote:Sure you can but it's not a quick SUN morning drop the chair for a day ride and a quick bolt up and align the chair SUN evening to ride to work Monday. IMHO not worth the time for a day ride. Big deterrent for me dropping the chair on a Ural with a LL front end is the handling. W/o the tub the steering is really "twitchy" and not a warm-n-fuzzy feeling at all. If you're running hyd tele forks different handling is not a big deal.
In 1969 i had a BMW without the side car and took a 4000 mile trip to Canada. it had the earls front end and the bike was flawless. :cheers:
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Re: Can you take the sidecar off?

Post by tx2sturgis » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:02 pm

I never answered directly, instead I help them activate a few brain cells and ask them: if you go buy a brand new pickup truck, do you drive it home and take the cargo bed off and drive it around that way?

No? Why not?

Well the answer is, of course, you bought that new pickup BECAUSE it has a bed on it.

Same answer in the case of the Ural.

I bought it BECAUSE it has a sidecar on it.
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Re: Can you take the sidecar off?

Post by GHGoodwin » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:33 pm

I just say "only for maintenance".
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Re: Can you take the sidecar off?

Post by Eric N » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:43 pm

To remove the sidecar, you'd have to change out the final drive or drive around with a driveshaft stub sticking out.

Ural 1WD bikes are easier to convert to solo's, Ural also sells solo's. The 2WD is integrated into the sidecar. Beyond changing out the final drive, and modifying the rear brake, you'd also need to install a side stand as trying to get the bike on the center stand would be a pain.

Easiest answer when someone asks is walk them to the back of the bike and point to the rear driveshaft. Once people can see that the sidecar is a major part of the bike, they understand this isn't like a Harley with a quick disconnect kit.

Many other sidecars are quick disconnect, where the sidecar can be installed in 10 minutes. Those don't have driveshafts or sidecar brakes. Look at kits for Harley or Indian for examples. I suspect if you press a little, the people asking if it can be removed have some uncle Bob who once owned a bike with a removable sidecar. Uncle Bob would put the sidecar on to give the kids a ride and take it off to go ride with his friends.
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Re: Can you take the sidecar off?

Post by harryball » Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:26 pm

The DMV tester asked me to remove the sidecar to take my test when I got my endorsement. When I told her it didn't come off, she had to go back inside to find out what to do. She came back and had me take the rig through the 2 wheel course. I passed, but it was a joke. When she turned in the results the lady behind the counter was stunned to see the course sheet and asked the tester why she used the 2 wheel test. The reply, she couldn't find the form for "3 wheeled vehicles". Umm.. it's filed under "Trikes".
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Re: Can you take the sidecar off?

Post by biker » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:39 pm

Yes you can if you want to. There are 2 videos on youtube Ural without the sidecar one of a patrol and another by Ural of new England using a Ural CT without the sidecar. As for myself I have both 2 wheel rides and Urals so why bother. :)
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