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Drain Plug Pic Thread...

Post by BinDerSmokDat » Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:51 am

We seem to get a lot of questions regarding the "normal" amount of swarf/metal/sludge on a drain plug.
I thought we could start a Drain Plug Pic Thread.
Just post a pic of your plug, where it came from (engine, trans, FD, filter), what the mileage was and any relevant comments ("heard clunk in FD, found bolt heads sheared off")
Try to keep from posting anything off-topic. I'm aiming for a gallery of pics that folks can reference without scrolling through extra comments.

@600km, Trans Fill
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@600km, Trans Drain
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@600km, FD Drain
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@600km, Filter Cap
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@600km, Engine Drain
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@2500km, left to right, Dipstick, FD, Trans Drain, Trans Fill, Engine Drain.
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200km on rebuilt FD
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Once I changed the oil at 5000km and saw the swarf decreased dramatically, I stopped taking pics. :D

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Post by rougaroo » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:45 am

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Post by RobDek » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:36 pm

At 2500km service. Transmission, FD and engine I believe. The last one is kinda chunky... :?

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Re: Drain Plug Pic Thread...

Post by chumster » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:04 pm

My pics did not come out well...

I did not notice much of any metal shavings/pieces.
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Re: Drain Plug Pic Thread...

Post by BinDerSmokDat » Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:36 pm

Chumster they all look good.
They all look like fine particles and no chunks or flakes, that is good.
If you are really anal, you can rinse the plug with a little mineral spirits and pour in a white container to get a better look at the particles.
But that is for the really anal retentive; I did it once early on in my ownership and was satisfied that a visual inspection was sufficient.
Otherwise, wipe the plug off with a white cloth and look at the particles on the cloth.

There will always be a little 'swarf' or fine metal shavings on your drain plugs from all three locations.
It should lessen with time as things break in and the gears mesh.

General observations I've made...

The metal on the tranny fill plug is slightly coarser than on the drain plug. I think it's because the flakes that stick to the fill plug don't get ground up in the gears as the oil circulate and turn to finer particles which drop down and collect on the drain plug.

The final drive gear is relatively large and has a lot of surface contact with the pinion.
There is always fine metal when I drain the FD, but it gradually lessens each change until it is like a fine gray sludge just clinging to the magnet.

The engine drain plug will get to the point where it is barely covered.

Pay close attention to the FD and engine plugs, they have the potential to give you advance warning of a major issue.

If you have been riding the bike hard (like off-road and under water ;) ) or you can't remember the last time you changed the oil, change all the fluids. It's cheap insurance.

Remember, you can get 2 changes (some folks say more) out of the oil filter, so if you don't have a spare filter around, don't let that stop you from changing the oil. I'd rather run fresh oil with a filter that has been in for a change or two than skip a change and run dirty, thrashed out, cooked oil.

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Post by BinDerSmokDat » Sun Nov 09, 2014 10:41 pm

Chumster, is there any chance you have you Engine drain and FD drain pics swapped?
That looks more like the amount of swarf I'd expect to see on an FD and less on the engine.

Either way, I wouldn't be concerned, all particles are of a fine consistency and look good.
For a bike as new as yours, you are bound to see a lot of metal the first few changes.

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Re: Drain Plug Pic Thread...

Post by chumster » Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:02 pm

Thank you! Very helpful info...
I might have confused the pics but definitely did not mix up the plugs. Did one change at the time.
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Post by tonered » Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:27 pm

Great thread. I'll try to snag mine the next time around.

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Post by thesquarewheelis » Thu Nov 27, 2014 10:31 pm

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Post by thesquarewheelis » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:17 am

Keeping this alive, 12.5k service tonight. Lift to right, final drive, gearbox, engine.
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Re: Drain Plug Pic Thread...

Post by BinDerSmokDat » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:47 pm

thesquarewheelis wrote:Keeping this alive, 12.5k service tonight. Lift to right, final drive, gearbox, engine.
Your FD plug in both pics seems a little orange-ish.
Do you have an additive/synthetic oil in there?

Or is that rust? :shock:

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Post by thesquarewheelis » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:50 pm

It's red line shockproof gear oil.
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Post by barnone » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:55 pm

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Post by prstone50 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:23 am

thesquarewheelis wrote:Keeping this alive, 12.5k service tonight. Lift to right, final drive, gearbox, engine.

Hrmmm, your plugs have way less swarf than mine...but I am not starting an oil thread ! :D just an unscientific observation considering we have the same number of KM on our bikes . Cool that it is red still on final drivedrive. Is that greenishsh Trans fluid ?
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Re: Drain Plug Pic Thread...

Post by stevesdniper » Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:06 am

For the uk market this particular thread problem has been solved....No more magnets

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