Auxbeam NF-S1 led & Hella E4 lamp beam shots

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Re: Auxbeam NF-S1 led & Hella E4 lamp beam shots

Post by Tomcatfixer » Fri Jun 07, 2019 8:03 pm

I initially tried that Cyron led Ural sells, the triangular one with 3 emitters, and was totally disappointed.
I concur. The Cyron is plenty bright, but doesn't "throw" that light down the road very well. The other LED "bulbs" are much more effective and penetrating the darkness.
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Re: Auxbeam NF-S1 led & Hella E4 lamp beam shots

Post by Geno89074 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:29 pm

Hi found this thread to be very interesting
Not to sound dense but have a couple applications (including the patrol) would like to try these Auxbeam LED H4s
For a normal 12v motorcycle electrical system do I need to install resistors in the harness or get new relays??
Asking since have done 4 different motorcycles with led tail lights and turn signals with very mixed results....every bike seemed to respond differently
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Re: Auxbeam NF-S1 led & Hella E4 lamp beam shots

Post by windmill » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:00 pm

Geno89074 wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:29 pm
Hi found this thread to be very interesting
Not to sound dense but have a couple applications (including the patrol) would like to try these Auxbeam LED H4s
For a normal 12v motorcycle electrical system do I need to install resistors in the harness or get new relays??
Asking since have done 4 different motorcycles with led tail lights and turn signals with very mixed results....every bike seemed to respond differently
Many Thanks-CHEERS!! -Geno
The Auxbeam is plug and play, no relays, resistors, or anything else needed.

Resistors are only needed for LED turn signal bulbs because flasher units are wattage sensitive.There are flasher units that work with LED's, and there's LED's with built in resisters for vehicles with CANBUS systems.
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Re: Auxbeam NF-S1 led & Hella E4 lamp beam shots

Post by Geno89074 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:57 am

Great information-Thank you for the reply!!
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Re: Auxbeam NF-S1 led & Hella E4 lamp beam shots

Post by Geno89074 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:21 pm

Okay Just completed 'The Windmill Lighting Mod':

Thank you windmill for all the excellent advice on this thread along with all the other good uralistas on this board that posted their findings
My low beams failed. Ordered the auxbeam bulb. It arrived next day. Tore into headlight bucket. On this 2014 Patrol had the wagner sealed headlight. Couldnt install the bulb. Ordered the hella relflector. Realized after arrival no existing wiring for the pilot bulb. took out shell and dug into the rats nest. found the yellow wire into the connector for the pilot light to come on with an idiot light (got ground from the battery neg).
Quickly realized this went from a 15minute 'that was easy' to a minimum of 3 beer project. collected up every spade terminal and piece of shrink wrap i had laying around in the garage and fired up the soldering iron. Was able to remove the yellow lead from the connector behind the shell and feed a length of 14 gauge wire through into the shell itself. Really struggled with the ground. Finally decided to pull the ground off the h4 connector in the shell. Crimped and soldered like i was mad at it (i probably was). Resolved to switch out the ural oem connectors with some sealed ones at a future date. Took it out for a test ride and noticed the headlight is quite excellent may have to rotate the new aux beam bulb not a clean cut off on top.
Noticed on this little nightime test ride around the neighborhood the headerpipes glowing red (for the 1st time ever).
Parked it and posted to the order of the greasy wrench since i was freaking out about burning a valve or piston.

Posting some photos in case anyone else is converting from the wagner sealed beam to the auxbeam/hella shell windmill so kindly introduced me to.
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Re: Auxbeam NF-S1 led & Hella E4 lamp beam shots

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Re: Auxbeam NF-S1 led & Hella E4 lamp beam shots

Post by Geno89074 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:26 pm

hahahha i guess i have to practice with the new photo editing software for my laptop
pretty complicated compared to the ural wiring!!

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Re: Auxbeam NF-S1 led & Hella E4 lamp beam shots

Post by n3303j » Mon Jul 01, 2019 7:55 pm

http://stores.advmonster.com/native-h4r2/
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I'm running this solution in a Hella reflector on my Moto Guzzi.
It's a plug & play replacement that fits anywhere a standard H4 bulb fits because there are no additions to the back dimensions.
Brighter than the fancy Sylvania Silverstone Ultra with longer life and lower power consumption.
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Re: Auxbeam NF-S1 led & Hella E4 lamp beam shots

Post by Lofty » Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:31 pm

http://stores.advmonster.com/native-h4r2/

I'm running this solution in a Hella reflector on my Moto Guzzi.
It's a plug & play replacement that fits anywhere a standard H4 bulb fits because there are no additions to the back dimensions.
Be advised that ADV Monster has had occasional bad reviews on the ADV Rider web forum. Here's the latest:
https://advrider.com/f/threads/buyer-be ... g.1388703/

Caveat emptor.
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Re: Auxbeam NF-S1 led & Hella E4 lamp beam shots

Post by Lofty » Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:05 pm

Aurans wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:22 am
Hella H4 E-code lens and Auxbeam NF-S1 H4 bulb (2 pack).

For the Auxbeam:

1. Remove the keyed collar, insert that into the back of the lens.
2. Clip it into place with the two metal clips on the lens.
3. Put the rubber seal in place, poking the pilot light and ground connectors through.
4. Insert the bulb by pressing into the rubber seal and aligning the two pins on the sides with the slots in the keyed collar. Twist and lock into place.
5. Make sure the bulb is right-side up. The front of the bulb has metal fins by the diode. Up is with these under, not above, the light.
With respect to the bolded text, how were you able to make this work? I can't envision the Auxbeam bulb assembly being able to seat correctly in the included adapter collar without using a hobby knife to enlarge the opening on the rubber seal. It's plainly evident that the seal is designed to accommodate an incandescent H4 bulb. It therefore sits too high to accommodate the design of the NF-S1 bulb. Comments from those who've done it?

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Re: Auxbeam NF-S1 led & Hella E4 lamp beam shots

Post by windmill » Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:38 am

Lofty wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:05 pm
Aurans wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:22 am
Hella H4 E-code lens and Auxbeam NF-S1 H4 bulb (2 pack).

For the Auxbeam:

1. Remove the keyed collar, insert that into the back of the lens.
2. Clip it into place with the two metal clips on the lens.
3. Put the rubber seal in place, poking the pilot light and ground connectors through.
4. Insert the bulb by pressing into the rubber seal and aligning the two pins on the sides with the slots in the keyed collar. Twist and lock into place.
5. Make sure the bulb is right-side up. The front of the bulb has metal fins by the diode. Up is with these under, not above, the light.
With respect to the bolded text, how were you able to make this work? I can't envision the Auxbeam bulb assembly being able to seat correctly in the included adapter collar without using a hobby knife to enlarge the opening on the rubber seal. It's plainly evident that the seal is designed to accommodate an incandescent H4 bulb. It therefore sits too high to accommodate the design of the NF-S1 bulb. Comments from those who've done it?

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I simply omitted the rubber boot. I don't think it would be a good idea to basically insulate the heat sink.
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Re: Auxbeam NF-S1 led & Hella E4 lamp beam shots

Post by Lofty » Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:17 am

windmill wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:38 am
I simply omitted the rubber boot. I don't think it would be a good idea to basically insulate the heat sink.
I was concerned with the same. There are small openings evident without the boot in situ, where moisture might find its way in.

I may scientifically add a small wrap of 3M Super 88 electrical tape, and call it good.
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Re: Auxbeam NF-S1 led & Hella E4 lamp beam shots

Post by windmill » Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:25 am

Lofty wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:31 pm
http://stores.advmonster.com/native-h4r2/

I'm running this solution in a Hella reflector on my Moto Guzzi.
It's a plug & play replacement that fits anywhere a standard H4 bulb fits because there are no additions to the back dimensions.
Be advised that ADV Monster has had occasional bad reviews on the ADV Rider web forum. Here's the latest:
https://advrider.com/f/threads/buyer-be ... g.1388703/

Caveat emptor.
I remembered seeing the same on Amazon for essentially half the price as its for 2 bulbs.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XB4K5F7?aa ... B07XB4K5F7

I've seen mixed reviews, some saying they work great, some saying they don't preserve the beam pattern and glare badly, some saying they don't fit.
Barry

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Re: Auxbeam NF-S1 led & Hella E4 lamp beam shots

Post by Lofty » Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:43 am

windmill wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:25 am
Lofty wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:31 pm
http://stores.advmonster.com/native-h4r2/

I'm running this solution in a Hella reflector on my Moto Guzzi.
It's a plug & play replacement that fits anywhere a standard H4 bulb fits because there are no additions to the back dimensions.
Be advised that ADV Monster has had occasional bad reviews on the ADV Rider web forum. Here's the latest:
https://advrider.com/f/threads/buyer-be ... g.1388703/
I remembered seeing the same on Amazon for essentially half the price as its for 2 bulbs.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XB4K5F7?aa ... B07XB4K5F7
That was a recurring complaint on ADV Rider: that the vendor ADV Monster was simply marking up the same bulbs that were sold on, e.g., Ali Express. At least one aggrieved buyer had provided links that crosswalked the cheap Chinese bulbs to the ostensibly same bulbs that were being sold not-so-cheaply by ADV M.

And now we see a similar example via your Amazon link. It makes for a compelling argument.
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Re: Auxbeam NF-S1 led & Hella E4 lamp beam shots

Post by Crosshair » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:30 pm

windmill wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:38 am
Lofty wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 2:05 pm
Aurans wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:22 am
Hella H4 E-code lens and Auxbeam NF-S1 H4 bulb (2 pack).

For the Auxbeam:

1. Remove the keyed collar, insert that into the back of the lens.
2. Clip it into place with the two metal clips on the lens.
3. Put the rubber seal in place, poking the pilot light and ground connectors through.
4. Insert the bulb by pressing into the rubber seal and aligning the two pins on the sides with the slots in the keyed collar. Twist and lock into place.
5. Make sure the bulb is right-side up. The front of the bulb has metal fins by the diode. Up is with these under, not above, the light.
With respect to the bolded text, how were you able to make this work? I can't envision the Auxbeam bulb assembly being able to seat correctly in the included adapter collar without using a hobby knife to enlarge the opening on the rubber seal. It's plainly evident that the seal is designed to accommodate an incandescent H4 bulb. It therefore sits too high to accommodate the design of the NF-S1 bulb. Comments from those who've done it?

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I simply omitted the rubber boot. I don't think it would be a good idea to basically insulate the heat sink.
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You can install that boot snug against the headlamp. Push the center in and wrap it around that lamp socket. The outside edge of the boot is like a suction cup against the headlamp. My boot does not interfere with the heat sink.

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