Switch for rear brake light

Woe unto you that bought the first model year of a major remake, perhaps this section can help address any 2014 and later model Ural "imperfections". Here's a special section for folks with the latest rigs to discuss 2014 and later model-related topics such fuel injection, 3-wheel disc brakes, hydraulic steering dampers, spin-on oil filters and other anomalies that don't belong on true Russsian motorcycle ;-P We've gone from using big hammers and greasy wrenches to needing computers and Ouija boards in order to fix our rigs.
Forum rules
Please keep this section specific to issues pertaining to 2014 and later models such as fuel injection, sidecar and rear disc brakes and so forth. Ask general or non-2014 and later specific questions in the main Hammerin' & Wrenchin' section.
User avatar
MartyL
Benevolent Emperor
Benevolent Emperor
Posts: 8844
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:16 pm
Location: Winter Park, Fl.

Re: Switch for rear brake light

Post by MartyL » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:43 am

bdlaue wrote:No issues with switch, so far. :)
:twisted: DO NOT TEMPT THE EVIL ONE!!! :twisted: The Evil Dreaded Rear Brake Light Switch will unleash its unholy spew from the dark depths of the underworld! BEGONE EVIL ONE!!! :twisted:
2010 Gear Up
1976 Yamaha XS650C
2018 H-D FLHXS
Peace.... God Bless our brave soldiers defending our freedom. God Bless America!
As I get older, I see the wisdom in Hannibal Lecter......
Ladies,Do your part! Prevent MSB often! Save mankind!!!

hwk2th
Comrade
Comrade
Posts: 44
Joined: Fri May 04, 2012 1:29 pm

Re: Switch for rear brake light

Post by hwk2th » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:50 pm

had a bad switch as well..drove home with brake light on for 150 miles...pushed and pulled it multiple times seems to be working

User avatar
Kilometers2
Comrade General
Comrade General
Posts: 684
Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:14 pm
Location: Huntsville, Al

Re: Switch for rear brake light

Post by Kilometers2 » Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:08 am

:boogie: hhmmmm and here I thought the lights were one of the hidden improvements IMZ made without all the fanfare. After being told to use dielectric grease on all the electrical connections on my 2007 Gear Up, and not believing it, and then having to do so to get turn signals and brake lights to work consistently, I've been amazed each and every ride on the 2014 Patrol that ALL the lights work all the time....and have been the least trouble prone system on my rig to date at 1,450Kms.

Kilometers
2014 Patrol red/white
Miles aka Kilometers

Uralless for 3 years and regretting it the last 2 years I have owned a Doberman. Thinking of coming back rather than hacking the Harley...there is just something about Urals, this forum, and the 2WD I used infrequently while camping.....

Formerly owned 2007 GU, 2014 Patrol, and 2016 GU

User avatar
Albuquralque
Order of Victory
Order of Victory
Posts: 19684
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:46 pm
Location: Albuquerque, NM

Re: Switch for rear brake light

Post by Albuquralque » Sat Jul 12, 2014 9:12 am

:thumbsup:
"Put a little gravel in your travel"


Previous Urals Owned: 2004 Wolf, 2006 Tourist, 2006 Patrol (TOW), 2006 Patrol (TOM), 2014 Patrol

Trevorski
Order of Lenin
Order of Lenin
Posts: 2157
Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:14 pm
Location: Adamant, Vermont, USA (yes, it's really a place name)

Re: Switch for rear brake light

Post by Trevorski » Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:58 am

Just the other evening as I was working on my handlebar swap, and fired the rig up briefly, I noticed that brake lights were on. Tugged on the switch and found it was stuck in the extended position. Wiggled it a lot and it retracted. There has _got_ to be a better option for a switch, somehow (even though from what I understand this is a switch commonly used on other brands also). Hope to eventually find something...
2014 Asphalt Gray Gear Up: "Drastic Measures"
PNW Engine Guard, Biltwell "Tracker" handlebars, Depner 2-lever gated quadrant shifter... more in progress....
1976 Kawasaki KE125
2009 Royal Enfield AVL Scrambler- someone else's uncompleted project that I'll someday finish...
1995 Ural Tourist = "The Red Menace" owned 2007-April 2014.

User avatar
Albuquralque
Order of Victory
Order of Victory
Posts: 19684
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:46 pm
Location: Albuquerque, NM

Post by Albuquralque » Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:29 pm

You could get a pressure operated switch and mount it where the banjo fitting is on the rear master cylinder.
"Put a little gravel in your travel"


Previous Urals Owned: 2004 Wolf, 2006 Tourist, 2006 Patrol (TOW), 2006 Patrol (TOM), 2014 Patrol

User avatar
54vintage
Order of Lenin
Order of Lenin
Posts: 1312
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:49 pm
Location: Eugene Oregon

Re: Switch for rear brake light

Post by 54vintage » Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:36 am

Since giving the switch a bit of lube and then a good workout It has worked like a charm. I think it only had a few hundred Ks on the clock at that time......Now I'm over the 5000 K mark with no signs of sticking.
Chuck Loftin
2002 1150 GSA with 2005 Ural tub
1985 K100RT

2014 Sage Green GU....off to a new home
1974 R90S----gone
2009 G650GS---outtahere

User avatar
Roadking
Comrade General
Comrade General
Posts: 928
Joined: Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:30 am
Location: Belmont, NC

Re: Switch for rear brake light

Post by Roadking » Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:12 am

54vintage wrote:Since giving the switch a bit of lube and then a good workout It has worked like a charm. I think it only had a few hundred Ks on the clock at that time......Now I'm over the 5000 K mark with no signs of sticking.
Same here. Took it off, turned upside down, WD-40, replaced. No problems since.
2014 Ural Sage Green Gear Up (The Crazy Russian)
2001 HD Roadking FLHRI

Never criticize a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes. Then he'll be a mile away and he'll have no shoes.

Subsnowden
Comrade General
Comrade General
Posts: 633
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:54 pm
Location: Houston, TX

Re: Switch for rear brake light

Post by Subsnowden » Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:23 am

I know this is an old thread but I thought I would resurrect for those that do/will have this problem. It's a super simple fix to make your sticky switch work perfect. Remove and disassemble the switch and you should see a small piece of excess plastic at the top of the rod. Scratch it off with your fingernail or something. That is the culprit of the sticking switch. Reassemble and reinstall and you shouldn't have any problems
Jon
Nomad
2015 Ural Gear Up

User avatar
GHGoodwin
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2020
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2020
Posts: 5373
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:43 pm
Location: Aurora, Ohio 44202 (SE of Cleve)

Re: Switch for rear brake light

Post by GHGoodwin » Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:07 pm

I'm thinking of switching out to one of these. Any comments?

http://www.amazon.com/Goodridge-Banjo-B ... B000GTV0RC
Hal

2011/12 Tourist - "The Russian"
It's a long list.
2014 Patrol - "Blackbird"

Subsnowden
Comrade General
Comrade General
Posts: 633
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:54 pm
Location: Houston, TX

Re: Switch for rear brake light

Post by Subsnowden » Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:24 pm

GHGoodwin wrote:I'm thinking of switching out to one of these. Any comments?

http://www.amazon.com/Goodridge-Banjo-B ... B000GTV0RC
You can definately go that route too. I was thinking about doing a banjo bolt switch as well but figured I would take my switch apart first. The banjo bolt sensors have been around forever and are usually reliable as hell. Just make sure you get the right size banjo and make sure your brakes are adjusted correctly.
Jon
Nomad
2015 Ural Gear Up

User avatar
GHGoodwin
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2020
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2020
Posts: 5373
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:43 pm
Location: Aurora, Ohio 44202 (SE of Cleve)

Re: Switch for rear brake light

Post by GHGoodwin » Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:56 am

I think we may be seeing these as stock in the future. Say late '16s maybe. Just a rumor I heard.
Hal

2011/12 Tourist - "The Russian"
It's a long list.
2014 Patrol - "Blackbird"

User avatar
wooden nickel
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2020
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2020
Posts: 2401
Joined: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:55 pm
Location: Louisville, KY 40216

Re: Switch for rear brake light

Post by wooden nickel » Sat Feb 13, 2016 4:10 pm

I don't want to any more obtuse than normal, but is 10mm X 1.25mm in fact the proper thread for these bikes? If so I think I'll get one unless you think Ural will do a recall. I just checked my mechanical switch and it doesn't move at all.
I may not be good, but I'm slow.
Nick
2014 M70 Retros, the sports car of Urals.

Subsnowden
Comrade General
Comrade General
Posts: 633
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:54 pm
Location: Houston, TX

Re: Switch for rear brake light

Post by Subsnowden » Sat Feb 13, 2016 4:22 pm

wooden nickel wrote:I don't want to any more obtuse than normal, but is 10mm X 1.25mm in fact the proper thread for these bikes? If so I think I'll get one unless you think Ural will do a recall. I just checked my mechanical switch and it doesn't move at all.
Pull it out and take it apart. It's a very simple mechanism. Just pull away the rubber boot and push in the two exposed metal tabs to remove the contacts at the end of the wires. Then inspect the rod, bushings, and spring
Jon
Nomad
2015 Ural Gear Up

User avatar
wooden nickel
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2020
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2020
Posts: 2401
Joined: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:55 pm
Location: Louisville, KY 40216

Re: Switch for rear brake light

Post by wooden nickel » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:42 pm

Actually between the crappy rear brake switch on this bike and the 06, I have had it with mechanical switches. I prefer pressure switches for their enclosed protected switching.
I may not be good, but I'm slow.
Nick
2014 M70 Retros, the sports car of Urals.

Post Reply