2019 and above wrenching thread...

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2019 and above wrenching thread...

Post by harryball » Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:08 pm

I'll go ahead and ask, due to the changes, is there going to be a split like when Ural went from carbs to what is now 1st Gen EFI?

So we have pre 2014, 2014 to 2018 and then a 2019 and above section?
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Re: 2019 and above wrenching thread...

Post by Mr Wazzock » Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:17 pm

Works for me, "Board index < The Wrenches < The Order of the Greasy Wrench < 2019 & Later Model-Specific Wrenching Issues"

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Re: 2019 and above wrenching thread...

Post by stagewex » Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:36 pm

Definitely a good idea.
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Re: 2019 and above wrenching thread...

Post by hotflash44 » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:37 pm

according to the advertising we wont need this thread. :boogie: :wink:
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Re: 2019 and above wrenching thread...

Post by JohnBG » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:04 pm

Good grief... has it come to that? Maybe I need to roll it all back into one big section again. A couple years ago I split off the section for the newer models as it was getting a little cluttered and us old-timers with real many rigs weren't able to answer EFI and 3-wheel disc brake questions. Damn, we need an Ouija board to fix these things now....
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Re: 2019 and above wrenching thread...

Post by Marine Corps Codu » Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:43 pm

Nooooooooooooooooo! One section now would take me DAYS to find what interests me!
I think I speak for everyone that the more the merrier!
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Re: 2019 and above wrenching thread...

Post by stagewex » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:10 am

Well, I've checked here a few times now and so far there seems to be no issues or problems with the 2019's.
Way to go IMZ.
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Re: 2019 and above wrenching thread...

Post by harryball » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:58 am

Well, there is one major serious issue with the 2019 so far... I'm sitting here surrounded by no 2019 Urals. I even double checked, nope, not a one sitting in my shop or even outside.

What do you mean I have to order and PAY for one? Dang it, 2, TWO major 2019 Ural issues now.

:?
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Re: 2019 and above wrenching thread...

Post by hotflash44 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:01 pm

harryball wrote:
Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:58 am
Well, there is one major serious issue with the 2019 so far... I'm sitting here surrounded by no 2019 Urals. I even double checked, nope, not a one sitting in my shop or even outside.

What do you mean I have to order and PAY for one? Dang it, 2, TWO major 2019 Ural issues now.

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your right seems they are stacked to the ceiling in a warehouse in New Jersey. the Government shut down some how slowed down the process i understand. as nice as the information is on the new Urals i cant see myself trading in my 2016 GU, its really been good to me so far. :cheers:
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Re: 2019 and above wrenching thread...

Post by Mr Wazzock » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:27 pm

Marine Corps Codu wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:43 pm
Nooooooooooooooooo! One section now would take me DAYS to find what interests me!
I think I speak for everyone that the more the merrier!
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It's the different EFI system for one thing that sets 2019+ apart. Easily going to get situations where peeps are talking about the EFI, and get confused which version is it.
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Re: 2019 and above wrenching thread...

Post by Desantnik-VDV » Mon May 06, 2019 12:54 pm

I'd wait for another year to see what 2020 will bring in term of changes🤣
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Re: 2019 and above wrenching thread...

Post by Lokiboy » Mon May 06, 2019 1:31 pm

Do we differentiate between a 650cc and 750cc engine? When folks put in their signature block the year of the rig, most people should be able to figure out if it’s a 2019 or older.
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Re: 2019 and above wrenching thread...

Post by rougaroo » Mon May 06, 2019 1:45 pm

John - Since all the year models from 2003-2019 have more in common than not, maybe another way would be to organize around technical sections rather than years. "Fuel Injection" and "DIsc Brakes" take care of the major differences, for example. Doesn't have to get way too specific down to "Spokes" or whatever, but EFI folks can go look for EFI problems there, and all the disc brakes from 2003 on can go to that section for their problems.

Engine, FD, gearboxes have slight differences, but just as we don't separate Herzog from pre-Herzog just leave them in the same section.

650's might be worthy of their own wrench section, too.

Only a suggestion -

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Re: 2019 and above wrenching thread...

Post by RC20 » Thu May 09, 2019 7:24 pm

I too think it is a good thought. Even engines with changes will have a lot in common and that could be broken down into sub section of 2003 to- 2018 or just noted its a 2019 when discussion as the bottom end is the same.
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Re: 2019 and above wrenching thread...

Post by BigJames » Wed May 15, 2019 12:02 pm

Let's not do that. Most of the bike is the same. EFI and heads different, but you're not gonna work on that. Your maintenance is the same, the $#!+ the breaks will be the same. The difference is the EFI systems and if that breaks are we really gonna fix that without just replacing parts? Expensive parts? Hideously expensive parts... Keihen don't need no stinking maps, 14-18 ElectroJet era are the ones that can be fiddled with fuel maps and such wizadry (imagine all the holed pistons) and I am willing to bet many of those will find Keihen EFI systems eventually anyway, or carbs. Do I have a stake in this? Watch and see...
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