2015 with cracked rims

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2015 with cracked rims

Post by Donbmw » Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:08 am

2015 Patrol with 44775km. Found today that front, rear and side car rims cracked. Have been looking at the at least monthly. Will call dealer Tuesday to start out of warranty claim.
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Re: 2015 with cracked rims

Post by GregAus » Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:52 am

Just call the NHTSA and get this problem fixed once and for all. Here is the complaint form https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/ Are you all waiting for someone to die to correct this problem that affects multiple years and multiple owners? Back in the 1950s BMW recommended strongly against using aluminium rims on sidecar bikes, and Ural has seemingly proved that recommendation right!

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Re: 2015 with cracked rims

Post by stagewex » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:03 am

Check the date(s) on the rims. There was a recent (just put "cracked rims" into SEARCH) member with I believe a 2015 that had some of those recalled 2012 rims on them. Why the factory was still pulling from the "don't use parts bin" in 2015 is beyond me?

The recall has and is in effect for these rims already. But it's up to the owner whether original or 2nd, 3rd, whatever to keep on top of it. I think folks that may not have a 2012 might think that their rims are made/produced at the same time as their rig.

Thank goodness you check/checked and kept an eye on them whether they are the recalled ones or not.
Post some pix if you get a chance.
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Re: 2015 with cracked rims

Post by Donbmw » Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:43 pm

stagewex wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:03 am
Check the date(s) on the rims. There was a recent (just put "cracked rims" into SEARCH) member with I believe a 2015 that had some of those recalled 2012 rims on them. Why the factory was still pulling from the "don't use parts bin" in 2015 is beyond me?

The recall has and is in effect for these rims already. But it's up to the owner whether original or 2nd, 3rd, whatever to keep on top of it. I think folks that may not have a 2012 might think that their rims are made/produced at the same time as their rig.

Thank goodness you check/checked and kept an eye on them whether they are the recalled ones or not.
Post some pix if you get a chance.
3 rims are August 2014 and 1 October 2013. Not in the effective dates.
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Re: 2015 with cracked rims

Post by stagewex » Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:17 pm

Frikken weird. I'd also get in touch with Jason at Ural corporate too. He took care of the last fellow.
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Re: 2015 with cracked rims

Post by windmill » Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:15 pm

stagewex wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 3:17 pm
Frikken weird. I'd also get in touch with Jason at Ural corporate too. He took care of the last fellow.
I believe there was 2 separate issues, the bad rims that were recalled, and then later some wheels with good rims but built with the spokes over torqued.
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Re: 2015 with cracked rims

Post by OleanderSalad » Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:13 pm

I had one of the 'doomed' rims that was from the factory on a 2016 Gear Up. I got it last month but it only had 35 miles on it because previous owner didn't ride it. The rear wheel rim cracked about 1/3rd away around at about mile 50.

AF1 Racing in Austin took care of it and processed the recall on Ural's dime. Ural sent a fully built out wheel assembly, and AF1 just moved my tire over. No charge for anything.

Since then, I've been super cautious about the spoke torque and I've examined the new rim as well as the others with a magnifying glass. Seems OK, but I still think I'd feel better riding steel rims.

Here are a couple pics of what my adventure looked like.
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Re: 2015 with cracked rims

Post by windmill » Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:14 pm

OleanderSalad wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:13 pm
but I still think I'd feel better riding steel rims.
Folks who had the Russian steel rims will remember it wasn't always puppies and rainbows with them either.

They were all lopsided and out of round, Spoke tensioning was part of regular maintenance, broken spokes were common enough many carried a few spares, They rust in the bead, and occasionally split open too. Overall I'm much happier with alloy rims, and have more confidence in them.

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About 8" of bead started splitting off the rim and tire blew out.
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Re: 2015 with cracked rims

Post by Donbmw » Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:38 pm

I never checked the torque on my spokes. I hav3 always tap them and never had a dull sound. All had a nice ring to them. Hav3 always done this on all my bikes and the wire wheel on my Triumph TR3.
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Re: 2015 with cracked rims

Post by Donbmw » Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:01 am

Here are pics before and after dye check.
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Re: 2015 with cracked rims

Post by windmill » Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:03 am

Donbmw wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:38 pm
I never checked the torque on my spokes. I hav3 always tap them and never had a dull sound. All had a nice ring to them. Hav3 always done this on all my bikes and the wire wheel on my Triumph TR3.
The sound difference between a loose and tight spoke is pretty obvious, but the difference in sound between a tight and too tight spoke isn't.
If Ivan over torqued the spokes at the factory, most folks probably wouldn't be able to discern the difference by sound, and I say that as someone who has built many bike and motorcycle wheels.
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Re: 2015 with cracked rims

Post by Donbmw » Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:29 pm

I would a$$ sume they would be right from the factory. Also putting a torque wrench on them with the proper torque you still wouldn’t know. Should you tear down a new whatever and check everything is right.
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Re: 2015 with cracked rims

Post by Mr Wazzock » Tue Jan 07, 2020 3:25 pm

windmill wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:14 pm
Folks who had the Russian steel rims will remember it wasn't always puppies and rainbows with them either.

They were all lopsided and out of round, Spoke tensioning was part of regular maintenance, broken spokes were common enough many carried a few spares, They rust in the bead, and occasionally split open too. Overall I'm much happier with alloy rims, and have more confidence in them.
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Re: 2015 with cracked rims

Post by Donbmw » Tue Jan 14, 2020 8:02 pm

Got word today that Ural is sending new wheels.
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Re: 2015 with cracked rims

Post by Happytrails » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:31 am

Good news :)
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