2011 Gear up Carburetor Replacement

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2011 Gear up Carburetor Replacement

Post by DickHandy » Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:38 pm

I have here is a very ill taken care of Ural. I’m slowly trying to bring her back to life. It’s rusty, like really rusty but first the engine. I have been slowly taking things apart. Cleaning them up and getting it back to workable again. It’s been a enjoyable project. But now to the carbs. They need replaced. Both have the idle jets froze up. Got looking closer and one the casting is cracked down the side of the threads..

So I looked here to see what others have done. Not a whole lot of info that I have found other than new stock replacement Keihin’s... I’m not sure I really want to shell out that kind of money just yet on this issue... has anyone used anything else? Lots of things come up on flea bay.. most look like China made junk. I have a full in house machine shop so I can adapt about anything if there’s a tiglet that needs adapted.

What’s your thoughts and ideas? This will be a long on going project so I’m in no rush. There’s lots of things still to do on this machine
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Re: 2011 Gear up Carburetor Replacement

Post by jeffsaline » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:31 pm

If I was going to replace the Keihins I would use 32mm BING CV carbs like used on airhead BMWs. They are pretty common and affordable. I too have a home machine shop and think it would be easy to adapt the BINGs to the Ural.

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Re: 2011 Gear up Carburetor Replacement

Post by rivers » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:32 pm

I highly suggest you stick with the stock 32CVK Keihins. Best user friendly carbs Ural ever used. Easy to clean, rebuild, tune and in stock trim CVK's are good for elevation changes up to 7,000-7,500ft w/o need for re-jetting. Some folks like round slide Mikuni's which are also good carbs but CVK's are less overall grief. All "good" carbs are expensive new but if you have the hunt/wait time used are out there for reasonable cost. Other than non-use/sitting and getting dirty problems that all carbs are prone to but easily cleanable their main prob is owners tweaking them trying to get more power out of a Ural motor. But occasionally (as you found) some really carb clueless ham fisted previous owner thinks brass jets seated in alum bodies need to be super torqued or they're going to fall out and in turn they crack the carb bodies. TILT! GAME OVER...insert $$$ to continue. :(
If you have the time look for rebuildable used ones or save up the money for new. Give Crawford's, Holopaw's or Heindl's a call and ask if they have any used.
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Re: 2011 Gear up Carburetor Replacement

Post by Lokiboy » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:37 pm

Check with Terry Crawford or Gene at Howlpaw for possible used carbs.
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Re: 2011 Gear up Carburetor Replacement

Post by DickHandy » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:52 pm

Thank you I will check out those resources. Also will look into the bing carb. I’m not looking for anything but stock power. If I wanted to go fast this isn’t the bike I would pick

I would have thought there would have been some used carbs on flea bay but haven’t seen a darn thing. They must all go sideways. Anyhow thanks I will take a look and make some calls.
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Re: 2011 Gear up Carburetor Replacement

Post by Eric N » Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:02 pm

The Keihin 32 is used on many bikes in various forms. When I order parts I tend to search for a 2000 Kawasaki Concourse. You might be able to source bits and pieces pretty easy to rebuild what you have. The bikes that run multiple carbs tend to have slightly different modifications but I think the base body is the same.
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Re: 2011 Gear up Carburetor Replacement

Post by DickHandy » Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:16 pm

Both carbs are toast. The idle jets have become one with the carb. So bad that one of them the carb body has a split in it on the back side. I’m assuming moisture got in there. The other I have soaking but I don’t have my hopes up. This rig has had a ruff life. I’m slowly bringing it back to life. I would re build them in a heartbeat if I thought they would live again. I will check out the concourse. Thank you!
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Re: 2011 Gear up Carburetor Replacement

Post by rivers » Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:52 pm

DickHandy wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:52 pm

I would have thought there would have been some used carbs on flea bay but haven’t seen a darn thing. They must all go sideways. Anyhow thanks I will take a look and make some calls.
Nah, unless someone physically breaks the carb body the internal wear parts are easily replaceable so most owners just clean and/or repair them.

edit: there's a guy in the Black Market subforum giving up on his Ural. Titled "Arctic Part Out." Seems the motor is toast so the carbs are likely for sale. It's an 07 model but the carbs are the same as your 011.
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Re: 2011 Gear up Carburetor Replacement

Post by Snakeoil » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:07 am

There are a pair of 32mm round slide Mikunis for sale on Albany, NY CL. It is part of a small lot of Triumph parts. He is asking $100 for the lot and the carbs are probably worth twice that. I'm tempted just to put them in my cabinet.
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Re: 2011 Gear up Carburetor Replacement

Post by DickHandy » Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:57 pm

So if I put that round style slide, what throttle cables do
I order? Or the Triumph ones maybe would work?
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Re: 2011 Gear up Carburetor Replacement

Post by rivers » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:39 am

For the Mik carbs you'll need a dual cable system. Cables and throttle/twist controller. Don't know if a Triumph throttle controller will work on Ural handle bars but worth checking into. Or find the dual cable controls from an old Ural. If'n were me I really try to use the Triumph stuff.
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Re: 2011 Gear up Carburetor Replacement

Post by GHGoodwin » Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:38 am

If Gobium (Van) is still around try him. He had a horde of parts at one point.

JRC flatslides will work but you'll need new cables. Raceway used to sell them in a kit form.
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Re: 2011 Gear up Carburetor Replacement

Post by Lmo » Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:32 pm

If Gobium (Van) is still around try him.
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