Ride the bike Solo

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Ride the bike Solo

Post by Fredrikrosen » Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:00 pm

Hi all.

Anyone that have removed the sidecar and used the bike as solo? I have a Retro and would like to know if it is ok to drive as a solo, not only how it is on the road but how the engine will take it. Maybe a good idea to change the FD ratio? :)

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Re: Ride the bike Solo

Post by RC20 » Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:02 pm

I gather it can be done but the tires are not intended for it so you have a poor handling machine.

Swap tires and you have better handling but its a heavy bike and the rake and trail is not intended for that setup.
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Re: Ride the bike Solo

Post by Fredrikrosen » Sun Jul 22, 2018 4:35 pm

I have a 650 Solo and that have acually same tires and chassie geometry as the sidecar version. I wonder if the 750 have similar?
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Re: Ride the bike Solo

Post by Tomcatfixer » Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:47 pm

Just do a forum search. Many owners have done this. Bottom line: if you have leading link forks and "square" tires, you're not gonna like it. Models with telescopic forks do much better without a hack.
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Re: Ride the bike Solo

Post by darkhorse » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:09 pm

I have a 2001 Deco Classic with the telescopic fork and have ridden it without the sidecar. It handled similar to other two wheelers with the exception of the issue mentioned above with the tires. In my opinion, the telescopic forks on the Urals are softer than other motorcycles I have had. I noticed this more when riding without the sidecar. I think it may be due to pushing the limits a little more without the sidecar.
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Post by a1930ford » Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:16 pm

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Re: Ride the bike Solo

Post by eastbloc » Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:19 pm

My 650 Bavarian Solo featured handling that was only slightly less weird than my leading-link Tourist with square tires without the sidecar attached.

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Post by Tin Man » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:54 pm

If you do this please post a video...... :lurker: .....always entertaining. :roll:
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Re: Ride the bike Solo

Post by 4REICH » Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:17 am

A late member of this forum posted something about how the only difference would be rake in the triple tree. So with that information I replaced the telescopic forks on my solo with a leading link front end retaining the solo trees and I really enjoy how smooth and stable it is
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Re: Ride the bike Solo

Post by Fredrikrosen » Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:43 am

I think the Retro model which have telescopic forks is the same in both versions.
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Post by S 854 » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:50 am

Tin Man wrote:
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If you do this please post a video...... :lurker: .....always entertaining. :roll:
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Re: Ride the bike Solo

Post by Lee Pape » Mon Jul 23, 2018 8:58 am

Fredrikrosen wrote:
Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:43 am
I think the Retro model which have telescopic forks is the same in both versions.
At one time you could also buy a Retro solo. The only difference was they added the right hand lights on the bike and a kick stand, and left off the sidecar mounts. You may already have the higher gear ratio in the finial drive.
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Re: Ride the bike Solo

Post by Fredrikrosen » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:19 am

How can i see what gear ratio i have? Turn the wheel one round and see how many the drive shaft rotate?
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Re: Ride the bike Solo

Post by Eric N » Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:29 pm

The Retro handles fine as a solo. Mine is a factory built solo, so no sidecar mounts and it has the kickstand.

The geometry is a little different than some of my other two wheel bikes, but nothing bizarre. Duro 308 tires, might switch to something rounder when they wear out, but fine for now. I'd caution against listening to the advice of people who have never ridden a Ural, and those who are confused between the Retro and the non-Retro frame.

You might change the rear brake pedal with one you can cut the sidecar linkage off. It's amazing how little things grab you on solo's that don't seem to stick out on the sidecar. Likewise the center stand foot that sticks out past the muffler can say Hi. I installed boxes but if you don't have anything else sticking out from the side, that foot can grab your leg.

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Re: Ride the bike Solo

Post by Peter Pan » Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:39 pm

The Patrol without sidecar is just ugly heavy and has the typical boxer tilt effect when you play with the gas. When you shift, you feel like if you would ride a vintage bike. Clutch, one, two, whack. Oh, there passed 30-50 yards before you loosen the clutch handle again.
It feels funny and if there would be right flashers already installed, I'd go more often as solo. I did only 28km like a solo, it is not too bad. (don't forget to loosen the friction damper)
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