Kick start lever remove - riding without it

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Kick start lever remove - riding without it

Post by otompotom » Wed May 02, 2018 10:48 am

Hi all,

I am new owner of this great machine.

I bought the 2018 Ural Retro and I have problem with the shifting up due to kickstarter lever.
Is it possible to remove the lever and riding without it?

Thank you very much.

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Re: Kick start lever remove - riding without it

Post by hotflash44 » Wed May 02, 2018 1:51 pm

otompotom wrote:Hi all,

I am new owner of this great machine.

I bought the 2018 Ural Retro and I have problem with the shifting up due to kickstarter lever.
Is it possible to remove the lever and riding without it?

Thank you very much.
never heard of that issue, could you describe what the kick start lever does? on the removal i don't see why that would be a problem ,but might keep it in the trunk just in case. :cheers:
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Re: Kick start lever remove - riding without it

Post by otompotom » Wed May 02, 2018 2:08 pm

When i want to shift up by heel, everytime i hit to kickstart lever.

And i got information from dealer that if i remove kickstart lever the shaft fall into gearbox.

Sorry for my english.
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Re: Kick start lever remove - riding without it

Post by hotflash44 » Wed May 02, 2018 4:15 pm

otompotom wrote:When i want to shift up by heel, everytime i hit to kickstart lever.

And i got information from dealer that if i remove kickstart lever the shaft fall into gearbox.

Sorry for my english.
if that's true i wouldn't remove the lever for sure. might shift like i do, i never use the heel part i use just my toe up/down never a problem just like a Triumph motorcycle. good luck. :cheers:
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Re: Kick start lever remove - riding without it

Post by Lmo » Wed May 02, 2018 5:29 pm

I am new owner of this great machine.
Leave it on. Ride more miles and get used to it... it takes time to adapt. You never know when you might need it.

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Your English is fine, no need to apologize.
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Re: Kick start lever remove - riding without it

Post by Eric N » Wed May 02, 2018 9:14 pm

When you shift with your heel, point your toes away from the bike. That still allows your heel to shift, but moves your foot away from the kickstart lever.

Option #2, buy a used kickstart lever on eBay or elsewhere and cut all but the part that mounts to the gearbox off.
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Re: Kick start lever remove - riding without it

Post by brianural » Wed May 02, 2018 9:25 pm

Eric N wrote:When you shift with your heel, point your toes away from the bike. That still allows your heel to shift, but moves your foot away from the kickstart lever.

Option #2, buy a used kickstart lever on eBay or elsewhere and cut all but the part that mounts to the gearbox off.
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Re: Kick start lever remove - riding without it

Post by otompotom » Thu May 03, 2018 1:48 am

Thank you for the answers.

I will mount the lever back and try to ride with it :) It's true that, I don´t know when I'll need it :D

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Re: Kick start lever remove - riding without it

Post by VWK75S » Thu May 03, 2018 5:19 am

Lmo wrote: Leave it on. Ride more miles and get used to it...
:thumbsup: It took me some time to get used to it.
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Re: Kick start lever remove - riding without it

Post by jaybird » Thu May 03, 2018 11:19 am

My solution was to bend the top half of the kick start lever up against the motorcycle frame where it should have been in the first place.
The shifting and rider comfort will be greatly enhanced if you also fabricate a reinforcement bar to go between the foot peg and the engine guard, that will allow a wider range of positions for your left foot and will also let you place the ball of your foot on the reinforcement bar and angle your heel directly at the shifter. I also have a Raceway hand shifter on my Retro that I use almost exclusively for upshifting, and for down shifting about 50/50 between the hand shifter and the heel shifter

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Re: Kick start lever remove - riding without it

Post by GHGoodwin » Thu May 03, 2018 2:18 pm

Try this. Offset is about 2" back and starts so angled part begins where lever sticks out from frame.
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Re: Kick start lever remove - riding without it

Post by jaybird » Thu May 03, 2018 2:51 pm

GHGoodwin wrote:Try this. Offset is about 2" back and starts so angled part begins where lever sticks out from frame.
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A Retro/M70 is a completely different animal, I don't believe that will work. Maybe a modified version of what you did, but the steel that the kick start lever on my Retro is manufactured from is so soft that it wants to twist just using it in a straight line kick.

Someone with limited tools and mechanical ability might try bending the Retro/M70 kicker as I have illustrated above, I chained the kicker down to the frame and placed a large (1 1/2"?) box wrench over the kicker lever at the appropriat location and leveraged the kicker to the contour I wanted, I never removed the kick lever from the bike.
I recontoured the lever on my Retro for aesthetic reasons, and I didn't like it hitting the back of my calf, Never noticed it hindering my heel shifting, but everyone has different body dimensions.

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Re: Kick start lever remove - riding without it

Post by RobH » Sat May 05, 2018 1:50 am

I've been running my 2014 for 15K kms without the kick start lever... the shaft has shown no signs of dropping into the tranny. Of course the engine did seize a rod bearing... but that has nothing to do with the transmission.

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Re: Kick start lever remove - riding without it

Post by RPG » Sun May 06, 2018 6:45 pm

Recommend keep the kickstarter in place. As others have mentioned, it takes some time to get use to the Ural layout. After a few weeks of riding, I found everything settled in and I got use to the unique layout of the machine. Also, the kickstarter my come in handy someday . . . . All the best, RPG
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Re: Kick start lever remove - riding without it

Post by phliparoonie » Sun May 06, 2018 6:50 pm

Less fatiguing to use your toe to push down to upshift- no shin splints. Better control in getting the right amount of "stomp" to shift up. IMHO
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