Tire/wheel rotation swap

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Tire/wheel rotation swap

Post by tgtrotter » Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:24 am

Sorry guys, I searched the forum and web and didn't find not one link. Maybe i need a lesson on searching the forums.

I installed 4 new Duro 308s when I got this '07. After 2700 kms the pusher is 40% worn and no curve/crown. ( flat across tread ) The front about 20% and car about 30%. Neither of those flat across and ALL have perfect even tread. ( % of wear is approx comparing it visually to new spare)

So. Do I rotate them ?
How ?
Swap wheels and tires or just tires ?
What about putting just the spare where the pusher is ?

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Re: Tire/wheel rotation swap

Post by hotflash44 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:19 am

tgtrotter wrote:Sorry guys, I searched the forum and web and didn't find not one link. Maybe i need a lesson on searching the forums.

I installed 4 new Duro 308s when I got this '07. After 2700 kms the pusher is 40% worn and no curve/crown. ( flat across tread ) The front about 20% and car about 30%. Neither of those flat across and ALL have perfect even tread. ( % of wear is approx comparing it visually to new spare)

So. Do I rotate them ?
How ?
Swap wheels and tires or just tires ?
What about putting just the spare where the pusher is ? i would just change the pusher myself, maybe put the old pusher on the spare. :cheers:

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Re: Tire/wheel rotation swap

Post by Lokiboy » Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:24 am

I ride the pusher until the tread is worn to barely visible, then swap with the hack. When pusher again runs down to the same look it’s time replace the hack and pusher and usually the front at the same time. With Duro 308s they get around 6,000-7,000kms on the pusher and around 14,000kms on the front. I leave the spare alone since it would throw off my changeout pattern. The only saving grace is that Duro’s are pretty cheap.
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Re: Tire/wheel rotation swap

Post by Mikey » Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:03 am

Personally I don't have enough disposable income to replace multiple tires at once. So when my Pusher Tire gets worn down I'll be replacing that separately. When the pack wears down that too will be replaced and of course the front. Likely will switch out the spare to whatever its happy sitting in without any modification and then just replace the spare at that time so it doesn't age too much.
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Re: Tire/wheel rotation swap

Post by Mr Wazzock » Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:13 am

Lokiboy wrote:I ride the pusher until the tread is worn to barely visible,
LOL - in the UK that's a fine of £2,500 and 3 penalty points on your driving license if you're caught

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Re: Tire/wheel rotation swap

Post by Tomcatfixer » Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:14 am

For the Mobile Chernobyl's 30,000km existence, I've only changed pusher tires. 'Course, my hack and pusher wheels aren't as easy to swap out as yours are, what with the brake discs needing to be changed out, as well. :wink:

The hack bun still looks great, but the front and most recent pusher are coming due for replacement, so I currently have two 18" Heidenau K28's at-the-ready...
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Re: Tire/wheel rotation swap

Post by jaybird » Sun Mar 25, 2018 9:42 am

I don't rotate, I just replace tires as they wear out. My opinion, rotating tires on these rigs is unnecessary extra work that I don't have time for.
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Re: Tire/wheel rotation swap

Post by chaos2 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:05 am

I rotate mine, since I change the pusher to a 307 in the winter its no extra work. I would rather have the most worn tire on the car or the trunk.
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Re: Tire/wheel rotation swap

Post by hotflash44 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:16 am

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Lokiboy wrote:I ride the pusher until the tread is worn to barely visible,
LOL - in the UK that's a fine of £2,500 and 3 penalty points on your driving license if you're caught

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don't know how you cope with the MOT and its never ending set of rules. i occasionally read of some of the rules and most are common sense for safety and such, but really it would drive me nuts! :cheers:
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Re: Tire/wheel rotation swap

Post by Mr Wazzock » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:45 am

Yes they are just basic common sense, the trouble is it's a case of people NOT using their common sense, or trying to save money by not getting things fixed, so then they have to be forced to by laws. :D
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Re: Tire/wheel rotation swap

Post by hotflash44 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:35 pm

Mr Wazzock wrote:Yes they are just basic common sense, the trouble is it's a case of people NOT using their common sense, or trying to save money by not getting things fixed, so then they have to be forced to by laws. :D
i understand the reasoning its just the government intrusion part, where i live its there, but actually not so in your face. So many rules that we don't have here and i don't think as in the tire tread department many people getting hurt by having boarder line bald tires. i guess its a frame of mind and where your from that is different. Not picking on the UK/MOT just im not feeling the good part of government automotive rules. As a wild guess i would say 90% of the older vehicles here in the USA would not pass a MOT inspection ,not sure of the statistics of injuries from poorly maintained cars/motorcycles here. :cheers:
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Re: Tire/wheel rotation swap

Post by GillaFunk » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:31 pm

I replace when the tire needs replacing. too much of a PITA to rotate. Maybe if you have disc brakes all around its not a biggie. but if you have drums, and rotate and wheels, you may mind you have to adjust the pads, as wheel hubs are not known for being perfectly round. If you dont, you may find the braking ability is different once you swap.
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Re: Tire/wheel rotation swap

Post by stagewex » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:06 pm

I swapped tires when the bike was new. All except for the front which as you know as a fellow '07 owner is a disc. But between the spare/hack and pusher I got a lot of years out of the original factory tires.
However I was swapping tire and wheels and that's not the best thing to do whereas your brakes shoes get used to a particular wheel hub shape.
Changing the actual tires all around... you can do it but not really worth (my) your time. It really is going to be the Pusher that will need changing 2.5 to 3 times vs. all the other wheels.
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Re: Tire/wheel rotation swap

Post by tgtrotter » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:38 pm

Howdy all,
Thanks for the input. I'm gonna just wear the pusher down. And replace it with the spare. Will do a tire dismount, not wheel swap, when the time comes.

I do notice the pusher has way more grab now the tread has flattened out.

This forum has helped me a ton just sorting simple things out. Years ago., younger days, seems everyone I knew rode and always had a circle of info. And sometimes a guy just needs to hear himself ask and the answer comes.
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Re: Tire/wheel rotation swap

Post by Mr Wazzock » Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:12 am

@ HF, just to clarify, the fine & points I mentioned is nothing to do with the MOT test, altho obviously the vehicle would fail the test. No, the fine & points happens if the vehicle is seen and stopped by police on the road in that condition.

Obviously we have different standards, legal minimum tread depth is 1.6mm across full width of tyre and all the way around.

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