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Torque Wrench you like

Post by HAPBOB » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:01 am

As a new owner of an Ural seems a torque wrench in the tool box is now a necessity. I have a couple old ones never used but I wonder what you suggest for the URAL type maintenance. I see them from $25 to $300 on Ebay or just go to local sears ? Digital, Beam or click style?
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Post by brianural » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:23 am

I use a click style harbor freight one (Pittsburgh manufacturer). If I were to switch I think I would spend the extra dough on a digital one.
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Post by Ltrypsin » Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:50 am

I am not a fan of Harbor freight but..... My nephew is an aviation mechanic and they calibrate their Torque wrenches routinely . He has a Harbor Freight torque wrench and it holds it setting as well if not better then the more expensive wrenches.
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Post by Ironhand » Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:39 am

I have a few nice Snap Ons and a "cheap" Neiko. Honestly, both get the job done just fine.
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Post by Lee Pape » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:13 am

Who uses a torque wrench. The only thing I have ever used a torque wrench on the Ural is for just checking the toe torque on the heads. And II NEVER back the nut off and retorque them. I just check to make sure they haven't loosened up once a year or two. If you think that you need to back the nut off and retorque the heads studs then we will see you posting after a while "My head stud pulled out, now what do I do?". If you over torque (more then 38 ft/pounds) or loosen and retorque sooner or later you will pull a head stud or more. I know some of the manuals have higher torque listing for the heads but DO NOT go above 38 ft/pounds. Thie had been discussed on here many times and IMWA did change the manual after many years to a lower value. Older manuals would list 42 ft/pounds for head torque.
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Re: Torque Wrench you like

Post by Lee Pape » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:16 am

HAPBOB wrote:As a new owner of an Ural seems a torque wrench in the tool box is now a necessity. I have a couple old ones never used but I wonder what you suggest for the URAL type maintenance. I see them from $25 to $300 on Ebay or just go to local sears ? Digital, Beam or click style?
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Post by hotflash44 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:41 am

Your right 36.9ft lbs or 50 nm thats it , go over at your own risk .
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Post by Navy TM » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:44 am

I had purchased a digital 3/8" drive Torque wrench from sears, a craftsman model. I used it twice, at the third attempt to use it the digital display failed.It had been stored in a protective case with batteries removed. I contacted sears for a repair estimate and the cost to repair was almost as much as the original selling price. I then purchased a Harbor Freight 3/8" drive for $12.00 on sale. I have used this wrench for over four years now with no ill effects. I only use it when putting steel fasteners into aluminum such as head, oil pan, final drive,etc. As always this is my opinion yours may differ. :cheers:
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Post by chaos2 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:50 am

I have an old sears beam wrench that served me well for many years. I bought the $10 HF 3/8" one 5 years ago and it is a very good item. I back the settings down to zero after each use.
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Post by OHScot » Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:13 am

Lee Pape wrote:Who uses a torque wrench. The only thing I have ever used a torque wrench on the Ural is for just checking the toe torque on the heads. And II NEVER back the nut off and retorque them. I just check to make sure they haven't loosened up once a year or two. If you think that you need to back the nut off and retorque the heads studs then we will see you posting after a while "My head stud pulled out, now what do I do?". If you over torque (more then 38 ft/pounds) or loosen and retorque sooner or later you will pull a head stud or more. I know some of the manuals have higher torque listing for the heads but DO NOT go above 38 ft/pounds. Thie had been discussed on here many times and IMWA did change the manual after many years to a lower value. Older manuals would list 42 ft/pounds for head torque.
This is my thinking also. It is pretty simple to figure out much to tighten stuff. 2ft lever how many pounds of force type of thing. Only time I loosen a head bolt is on tear down.

For the record I have a lot of torque wrenches when you are pulling on them best to keep in mind how much weight and how long a lever. The clicker type have messed up a lot of people. The spring bar type have left a lot of stuff loose.

Always tighten just till the thing snaps off and back off about 3/4 of a turn then you know the exact torque limit. :boogie:
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Re: Torque Wrench you like

Post by chaos2 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:00 am

I remember this coming up over on the BMWMOA forum. The rolling-in-$$ tool snobs over there insisted anything less than $500 Deutsche made torque wrenches would destroy you precious lugs nuts and send you to a fiery death. Mentioning HF nearly got me banned :lol:
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Post by Wildhorse Cafe » Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:40 am

Harbor Freight is good enough if you are not a professional.
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Re: Torque Wrench you like

Post by Tin Man » Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:39 pm

Been thinking bout replacing my (very) old one for one of the newer click style's. Any down-side to those? :lurker:
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Re: Torque Wrench you like

Post by hotflash44 » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:44 pm

Only down side to any torque wrench is the accuracy. The beam type is probably the best at keeping the accuracy but, they can be hard to read in some circumstances. Thats where the digital or click type is good. If mistreated dropped used as a ratchet or other misuse it can become unreliable. Two choices in my opinion buy a high priced wrench that is tested at the factory and be confident its accurate , or get the cheaper ebay/harbor frieght type i happen to use the cheaper ones myself. I bought a digital torque attachment tool that will convert any wrench to a torque wrench or in my case i use it to double check the accuracy of my cheap wrenches. and they are very accurate .
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Re: Torque Wrench you like

Post by Tin Man » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:15 pm

hotflash44 wrote: I bought a digital torque attachment tool that will convert any wrench to a torque wrench or in my case i use it to double check the accuracy of my cheap wrenches. and they are very accurate .
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