04 steering head bearing replacement

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04 steering head bearing replacement

Post by phliparoonie » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:42 pm

Went for our first ride of the year today! 62 in Wisconsin in February! Bike ran great after all the sorting out with ignition, etc. last year. I did notice a little shimmying in the front end. Stopped by a friend's and we both noticed the Duro on the front was cupped pretty good. I have struggled with tightening these bearings over the years and threatened to put in tapered bearings "one of these days". That day is apparently here.

I reviewed our site and got the cross-check info for the right tapered bearings. I ordered a set of BMW/2 bearings from the site recommended (http://www.cycleworks.net/) and ordered it for $40 shipped. Upon further review of the topics here, I see that these older type /2 BMW bearings may not come with a dust seal. Is that so? Should I cancel the order??

Anyway, here's proof of the ride. Couldn't get The Monkey to quit grinning so big. :D
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Re: 04 steering head bearing replacement

Post by Lee Pape » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:27 am

This is what Terry Crawford sells. Note no dust seals.
http://www.crawfordsales.info/?page_id=36
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Re: 04 steering head bearing replacement

Post by phliparoonie » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:09 am

Thanks Lee.
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Re: 04 steering head bearing replacement

Post by phliparoonie » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:25 pm

I looked through the H'n & W'n section, but I don't see any how-to's on replacing the steering head bearings for older (pre-08) Urals. Do I need to remove the fork (hope not) from the bike? Just remove the dampner, expose the top and punch out the ball bearing races? Tapers towards the ends or towards each other? Do the new taper bearings affect the function of the dampner?

Thanks for any direction.
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stock: pipes, carbs, airbox, fuel petcock, tractor seat
new/add: windscreen,hack headlight,4 head stud holes,pistons,rings,starter,FD splined hub,clutch actuator bearing, clutch arm,donut,drive shaft,Ducati ignition,tank xover dscnect

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Re: 04 steering head bearing replacement

Post by rivers » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:51 pm

Yeah you gotta remove the forks. Theres an upper and lower race in the neck that needs removing.
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Re: 04 steering head bearing replacement

Post by Lmo » Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:44 pm

Take a look, courtesy of Mr. Gobium...



Or, maybe, if you're lucky (like I was) the race will pop right out, they were not that tight in the steering head tube. The lower race on the stem might be as loose as mine were too. Explore a little bit with a flat chisel and see if you can get it off without destroying the metal "dust shield".
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Re: 04 steering head bearing replacement

Post by phliparoonie » Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:00 am

I started the process of replacing the steering head bearings by removing all the "in the way" stuff before pulling the forks. When I took out the steering dampner, I noticed the condition of the stem...bent. Is this good, bad or indifferent?
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stock: pipes, carbs, airbox, fuel petcock, tractor seat
new/add: windscreen,hack headlight,4 head stud holes,pistons,rings,starter,FD splined hub,clutch actuator bearing, clutch arm,donut,drive shaft,Ducati ignition,tank xover dscnect

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Re: 04 steering head bearing replacement

Post by Daytripper » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:19 am

:puzzled:
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Re: 04 steering head bearing replacement

Post by Lmo » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:03 pm

Bent can't be good.. .. . hard tellin' from you photo tho... .

edit, I think I've got a lower triple clamp at the shop, somewhere, if you need it. NO wait.. .. you said steering DAMPER. Most don't work with a rat's tuckus anyway... "Indifferent".
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