Removing Sidecar

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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by gobium » Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:27 pm

750 jugs are bigger.
Quicker to cut and re weld very easy job.
You needed as least 1/4 to 3/8" clearance for jug fins to dog leg after alignment. You might get lucky but 9 out of 10 you need to modify.
That is how all new side frame are made.

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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by kennymeyer » Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:47 pm

Thanks Van, let you know Friday how it turns out!
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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by Lmo » Tue Aug 09, 2016 10:47 pm

:lurker:

Ural 750 (in my Dnepr) is wider than the original Dnepr 650 too... cut, cut, burn, burn.
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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by tx2sturgis » Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:48 pm

Please take pics!

Some of us will probably never do this....but...you never know!

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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by kennymeyer » Thu Aug 11, 2016 6:38 pm

I've been documenting the process... Will share when finished
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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by kennymeyer » Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:58 pm

IT FITS!!! :boogie: As you can see in the photos there's plenty of clearance. The only issue I have is the rear strut. On the '13 the mounting point on the bike is about 3 inches "behind" where the mounting point on the bike is on the '96. There's not enough adjustment on the rear strut to make the connection, so a new strut is in order. I can deal with that, and since the new struts have both top and bottom adjustments it shouldn't be a big deal. Besides, it's a whole hell of a lot easier than having to modify the sidecar frame :D So at least in my case (YEMV) mounting a '96 Tourist sidecar to a '13 Tourist "solo" works just fine. Next step, matching up the wiring...
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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by mhcallies » Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:49 pm

Very cool!
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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by Snakeoil » Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:25 pm

Good for you.

Nice when things turn out well... Uncommon, too. :wink:
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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by kennymeyer » Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:30 pm

Snakeoil wrote:Good for you.

Nice when things turn out well... Uncommon, too. :wink:
Agreed! Too many sleepless nights worrying about this conversation. I'm used to things going the other way :D
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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by JPanyon » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:59 am

Another item...somewhere around 2005 Ural went to 19 inch wheels. Prior to this they used 18 inch wheels. I'm thinking you'll need a new wheel for your older hack (plus a new spare) to match up with the larger wheels on your new ride. Oh well, life is what it is and not always what we want.
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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by kennymeyer » Thu Aug 18, 2016 6:19 am

My '96 has 19" all the way around, so no worries there. Not sure about the 18" models, but I do know that 96, 97 & 98 Tourists all had 19's.
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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by kennymeyer » Thu Aug 18, 2016 7:42 am

Found a local welder to modify the rear strut from the '96. Cut 2" from the tube, added an insert to ensure there wasn't any loss in strength and welding it up. Fits like a charm! Attached one of Sean's steering dampeners (thanks Sean) and took her out for a spin around the neighborhood. Have to say the 750 pulls quite a bit stronger than the old 650! Got back in the garage and replaced the original snowmen with a new set. Also added a set of Van's snowman helper springs. Popped the tub back on, affixed two "safety" cables (figured while I had it apart that mod couldn't hurt) and buttoned it all up. Now to see if I can get a 2013 sidecar wiring harness so I don't have to cut off the stock connector... Next step is to get the rig down to Storm's and have Doug check the alignment. After that I should be good to go.
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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by Lmo » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:50 pm

That'll be me next week. Having to drop the nose of the chair just to get my right valve cover off isn't anything I want to have to do again, especially if I'm "on the road". Not a big deal, just a royal PITA. Since I'll be whacking the front frame tube mount loose I thought I'd move the chair over 3/4" while I was at it.
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