Removing Sidecar

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Removing Sidecar

Post by kennymeyer » Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:58 pm

I'm going to be pulling the sidecar off my '96 Tourist in the very near future to ready it for mounting to a newer Ural. Although the process looks fairly straightforward, I was wondering if there is anything I need to be aware of... Any do's or don'ts? All words of wisdom (as well as smart a** comments) are welcome and much appreciated.

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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by Bilgekeeldave » Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:04 pm

Why are you doing this? Is the newer Ural a solo?
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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by kennymeyer » Tue Aug 02, 2016 10:24 pm

I'm buying irondad's 2013 Tourist w/o the sidecar. He has a new project in mind and wants to keep the chair. Just wondering if my current spare will work on the '13 pusher...
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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by Brian Crean » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:47 am

I would take a couple of markers, a fine tip, and x-fine tip, and mark all the threads on your struts, where they screw in, and all adjustment nuts, and locknuts, make a note (photo) of how they're keyed, so you don't pull your hair out when you want to reattach it. Using that, you'll be in the ballpark when the time comes

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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by kennymeyer » Wed Aug 03, 2016 11:55 am

Thanks Brian, excellent idea. I wouldn't have though of doing that, and I don't have enough hair left to risk pulling any out...
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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by Lmo » Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:30 pm

I is probably obvious, but if you don't have a sidecar dolly you might want to have some scrap 2x4, 4x4, etc around to shim the sidecar into position. A little floor jack/motorcycle lift comes in handy too.
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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by Ironhorse Sa » Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:35 am

You don't need to mark anything as you will not be loosening the nuts that control toe in/out.
4 x nuts , 10 minutes thats what it takes.
The bottom ones os holding like a fist over a ball.
Loses that and hit it towards the bike with a hammer.
Top ones - just loosen- remember to put the bike on the centre stand and a support under tub
I do this often on my Retro.
To put back - the bottom first then the top.
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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by kennymeyer » Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:18 pm

Thanks for the replies. Pulled it off this evening, no problem! Now just waiting for the 2013 to arrive and I can mate them up
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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by eastbloc » Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:51 pm

The assumption is a) that it will fit the same and b) that it is set up right currently.

Trust nothing and set toe-in and lean-out again once you attach it. You've made a great move, you'll likely be able to recoup a good deal of the price for the new Ural by selling or parting out the old one and you'll have effectively a modern bike for next to nothing. I'd be doing the same if I didn't have too much on my plate already.
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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by gobium » Fri Aug 05, 2016 3:53 am

You might have to modify the sidecar frame.
Especially the front dog leg under right cylinder.
If not . it might be a very tight clearance.
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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by kennymeyer » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:39 am

eastbloc, I agree with making sure everything is reset properly. I already spoke with Doug and Ken in Grand Prairie and they'll double check my alinement for a very reasonable fee.

Van, I should have the bike next Friday I'll let you know if I have any issues with the front dog leg (or anything else for that matter). irondad and I checked the respective measurements on each bike and everything "measured" the same. But... I won't know for certain until I start putting them together!
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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by JohnBG » Tue Aug 09, 2016 3:09 pm

kennymeyer wrote:Thanks for the replies. Pulled it off this evening, no problem! Now just waiting for the 2013 to arrive and I can mate them up
I think the sidecar mounts for the 2013 are different than the older rigs. They have a dogbone adjuster on the front and rear where older rigs (like my '06) just have dogbone on the rear. You might need some additional hardware from your local Ural dealer.
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Re: Removing Sidecar

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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by gobium » Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:25 pm

This is your frame
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You might need to do this!
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Re: Removing Sidecar

Post by kennymeyer » Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:56 pm

So Van, you're thinking that they lengthened/bent/moved/redesigned the front dog leg on the sidecar frames when they first went to the 750 in (what) 2003 to make room for the larger jug? If that's the case and I have to modify my dog leg, would it be feasible to adapt the new adjustable front dog leg to my existing sidecar frame? Or would the modification you have above be a better move?
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