Got lucky...sort of..

Are ya having a problem with your rig? We'll try to help. Share your tech tips and experiences here. Dr. Billy Glaser, author of the "Unofficial 750 Ural Service Manual" site myural.com, is moderating this section.
Forum rules
Here is the place for you to ask questions about or share your experiences about servicing or repairing your Ural or Dnepr. Please post topics concering modifications or accesories in the "Modifications and Acessories" section. Please post oil related questions in the "Oil Threads" section.
Post Reply
User avatar
Msblu79
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2019
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2019
Posts: 1878
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:00 pm
Location: Invading Upstate NewYorkastan

Got lucky...sort of..

Post by Msblu79 » Tue May 14, 2019 2:14 pm

Finally got a nice day Saturday and decided to go for a ride in the afternoon. Got about 10 miles form home cruising along at 55 when suddenly I get a face full of blue smoke and the rig cuts out for a second. Smoke clears quickly and the engine restarts as I'm coasting down. I try the turn signals and they work so I find a spot to pull over and let traffic go by. Look around the rig to see what's up, motor still running but no running lights, signals & brake lites work OK though. Though at first I had blown it up but all was well with the engine. Turn around and head home for deeper investigation. Fuses all looked fine(?). Once I got home I decided to pull the headlight and look at the nest and see what is going on. I spot a wire coming from the ignition switch over to a plug that has all the insulation burned off of it, thankfully none of the other wires near it were damaged. It appears that the light power feed from the ignition switch had rubbed on the backside of the fuse panel and wore through shorting it to ground and melting the insulation and turning an 8" section into a toaster wire. It burned completely thru in a second or two thankfully and stopped the short from burning the whole bike down. A whole lotta smoke came out of there for such a short section of wire. The folks behind me had to have been wondering WTF was that. I was able to replace the burned section and repair the damage and all seems to be OK again. I got lucky in that it could have been alot worse and may have lost the rig completely. I must have pushed the wire bundle up against the panel last time I had the headlight off and it took a few weeks for it to saw thru it. But the rig got me home once again and maintains it's record of not leaving me stranded. :cheers: Sorry I have no pics, didn't think to take any. :(
2010 Black Patrol 90,000km's
Modtop airbox, 2013 branch pipes, Perch rings, Drilled slides, Gossie needles, 145 mains, 45 pilots, insulated manifolds, Modtop pushrods, Dual FMF exhaust, PA Multi-spark system w/ VOES, Spin on filter conversion, 33mpg, Royal Purple fluids.

Marine Corps Codu
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2019
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2019
Posts: 184
Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2019 7:05 pm
Location: Camano Island, WA

Re: Got lucky...sort of..

Post by Marine Corps Codu » Tue May 14, 2019 2:36 pm

You must be living right! Glad things worked put well.
Keith Birkhofer
Marine By Choice
2018 Gear Up
Former Bikes:
1947 Cushman Motor Scooter
1958 Cushman Motor Scooter
1964 Yamaguchi
1965 Honda 250
1968 KZ100
1960 Honda 55 (2 of them)
2002 Honda Gold Wing
2006 Ural Patrol
2005 BMW GS1200
2018 Ural Gear Up

User avatar
jaybird
Order of Lenin
Order of Lenin
Posts: 2399
Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:41 am
Location: The foothills of the Forked River Mountains, West Barnegat NJ (Do It In The Pines!) 08005

Re: Got lucky...sort of..

Post by jaybird » Tue May 14, 2019 2:52 pm

I've had wires on my GearUp chafe through and short out on the back of the headlight bucket, I've since covered it with duct tape to provide a layer of insulation.
Glad it worked out for you.

Happy trails,
Jaybird
2005 Gear-Up, Mr. Nat_ural 108,000+ Kilometers and counting
2013 Retro, Black beauty, AKA Lucky "13"
1995 Olive Tourist
1975 Enfield Diesel Bullet
2008 Enfield Bullet 500
1974 BMW R 75/6
Etc.

stagewex
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2019
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2019
Posts: 6661
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:45 pm
Location: New Rochelle, New York

Re: Got lucky...sort of..

Post by stagewex » Tue May 14, 2019 5:42 pm

Ever take the bolts out of the old original air cleaner and just touch the "HOT" on the starter with a wrench?
It's "shocking"
Stagewex

Current Herd all running amok:
2008 Vespa 150S (Elec & Kick Start)
2007 Ural Patrol (2WD, Elec & Kick Start)
2006 Yamaha TW200 (Elec & Kick Start)
1995 BMW K75 (Elec Start)
1991 Honda XR250L (Kick Start Only)
1986 Yamaha BW200ES (Elec & Kick Start)
1969 BMW r60/2 US model (Kick Start only)

User avatar
Wildhorse Cafe
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2019
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2019
Posts: 1730
Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:28 pm
Location: King City, California

Re: Got lucky...sort of..

Post by Wildhorse Cafe » Tue May 14, 2019 5:57 pm

Damn! You let all of the blue smoke out of the instrument panel, better check your reserve.
2011 Patrol Higgs Bison Super Collider formally known as the Orange and Silver Pumpkin Coach
2006 Shinny Black, Tourist, Tatyanna

When you set out on your journey to Ithaca
pray the road is long , full of adventure, full of knowledge
not expecting that Ithaca will offer you riches
Ithaca has given you the beautiful voyage

C.P. Cavafy

User avatar
Mr Wazzock
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2019
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2019
Posts: 5018
Joined: Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:22 pm
Location: Boston, UK
Contact:

Re: Got lucky...sort of..

Post by Mr Wazzock » Tue May 14, 2019 6:10 pm

Lucas-smoke.jpg
:D
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Mike H
2016 Ural cT, in glorious terracotta
(aka Oranzhevaya Opasnost, "The Orange Peril")

User avatar
Wildhorse Cafe
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2019
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2019
Posts: 1730
Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2014 5:28 pm
Location: King City, California

Re: Got lucky...sort of..

Post by Wildhorse Cafe » Tue May 14, 2019 7:42 pm

Mr Wazzock wrote:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:10 pm
Lucas-smoke.jpg

:D
Ah! Lucas, the prince of darkness. :lol:
Last edited by Wildhorse Cafe on Wed May 15, 2019 2:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.
2011 Patrol Higgs Bison Super Collider formally known as the Orange and Silver Pumpkin Coach
2006 Shinny Black, Tourist, Tatyanna

When you set out on your journey to Ithaca
pray the road is long , full of adventure, full of knowledge
not expecting that Ithaca will offer you riches
Ithaca has given you the beautiful voyage

C.P. Cavafy

User avatar
Msblu79
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2019
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2019
Posts: 1878
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:00 pm
Location: Invading Upstate NewYorkastan

Re: Got lucky...sort of..

Post by Msblu79 » Wed May 15, 2019 1:16 pm

:lol: :lol: You guys are to much, yep, I'll have to stop and pick up a bottle on the way home. Rode in to work today and it seemed to be running better, must have been shorting out lightly as it is running smoother now and not popping on decel as much. I was thinking that my carbs were in need of adjustment but it must have been the voltage acting up. :cheers:
2010 Black Patrol 90,000km's
Modtop airbox, 2013 branch pipes, Perch rings, Drilled slides, Gossie needles, 145 mains, 45 pilots, insulated manifolds, Modtop pushrods, Dual FMF exhaust, PA Multi-spark system w/ VOES, Spin on filter conversion, 33mpg, Royal Purple fluids.

User avatar
Lmo
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2019
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2019
Posts: 4860
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:19 pm
Location: Central California via So. Indiana

Re: Got lucky...sort of..

Post by Lmo » Wed May 15, 2019 2:29 pm

I must have pushed the wire bundle up against the panel last time I had the headlight off
Love me some "split loom wrap around" flexible sleeving; lends some order to the inside of the headlight nacelle rats nest.

Way mo'betta than the old corrugated stuff. IMO. Waytek, McMaster-Carr and others carry it. Several diameters to choose from; 1/8" - 2". Price isn't too bad, 3' piece of 1/8", $1.75; 1/2", about $4. Bends to tighter radii, and stays more tightly 'closed'. Easy to pierce through the weave to run lateral circuits out.

Image
Lew Morris
Dnepr w/ '06 Ural Drive Train
C5 Power Arc
125/42 jets
Drilled slides/
.030" shims

1973 BMW R75/5 (original owner)
1947 HD FL (long gone, forever regretful)

User avatar
jaybird
Order of Lenin
Order of Lenin
Posts: 2399
Joined: Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:41 am
Location: The foothills of the Forked River Mountains, West Barnegat NJ (Do It In The Pines!) 08005

Re: Got lucky...sort of..

Post by jaybird » Wed May 15, 2019 2:52 pm

Lmo wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 2:29 pm
I must have pushed the wire bundle up against the panel last time I had the headlight off
Love me some "split loom wrap around" flexible sleeving; lends some order to the inside of the headlight nacelle rats nest.

Way mo'betta than the old corrugated stuff. IMO. Waytek, McMaster-Carr and others carry it. Several diameters to choose from; 1/8" - 2". Price isn't too bad, 3' piece of 1/8", $1.75; 1/2", about $4. Bends to tighter radii, and stays more tightly 'closed'. Easy to pierce through the weave to run lateral circuits out.

Image
Nice! and to think I've been using old inner tube and pieces of hose all these years :lol: your stuff certainly is a lot more flexible. :cheers:

Happy trails,
Jaybird
2005 Gear-Up, Mr. Nat_ural 108,000+ Kilometers and counting
2013 Retro, Black beauty, AKA Lucky "13"
1995 Olive Tourist
1975 Enfield Diesel Bullet
2008 Enfield Bullet 500
1974 BMW R 75/6
Etc.

User avatar
Lmo
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2019
Hero of the Soviet Union - 2019
Posts: 4860
Joined: Wed Jun 10, 2015 3:19 pm
Location: Central California via So. Indiana

Re: Got lucky...sort of..

Post by Lmo » Wed May 15, 2019 9:47 pm

I used it all through my Dnepr.
Lew Morris
Dnepr w/ '06 Ural Drive Train
C5 Power Arc
125/42 jets
Drilled slides/
.030" shims

1973 BMW R75/5 (original owner)
1947 HD FL (long gone, forever regretful)

Post Reply