WTB: Old Russian Shocks...

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WTB: Old Russian Shocks...

Post by Lmo » Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:25 pm

Looking for a few. Worn out is good, let me know what you have.

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Re: WTB: Old Russian Shocks...

Post by Curshe » Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:10 pm

Have three that will be available got another set coming. Thought I might rebuild mine but got one shock apart by building a spring compressor. Will have to vastly improve tool to get it back together.
Shock cleaned up and they are a simple design, but book says only need 10mm to get keepers off not so much or my springs needed about 2 inches to get the tension off.
Anyway decided I couldn’t,didn’t want to deal with trying to fight the springs.
These are definitely been leaking for a while but don’t seem to be loose.
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Re: WTB: Old Russian Shocks...

Post by xpatriot » Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:11 pm

Are they easy to rebuild? I saw a diagram that showed a lot of parts, but also hear it's very easy do if you have a compressor.
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Re: WTB: Old Russian Shocks...

Post by Tomcatfixer » Tue Mar 10, 2020 5:01 pm

They're remarkably easy to rebuild (with a compressor). The trade-off is that they're remarkably poor performing compared to modern shocks, such as the Sachs, with which all 2008 and newer Urals came equipped.

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Re: WTB: Old Russian Shocks...

Post by Desantnik-VDV » Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:22 pm

Gene (Langford) Holopaw use to have all rubber seals 15 or so years ago. I got from him all needed parts and rebuild three Russian shocks once on 1999 Deco. I also r done the front forks. Had to get 1/2" threaded long rods, nuts and washers from the Home Depot. I then used a hole saw to cut holes on who pieces of thick plywood. Used a wrench to compress shocks...
Threw away that tool years ago after getting rid of the Ural :D

Chad's compression tool can make that job done listening fast.
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Re: WTB: Old Russian Shocks...

Post by Tomcatfixer » Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:38 pm

Chad's compression tool can make that job done listening fast.
To give credit where credit is due, I didn't make the compressor; it was a gift from either Rougaroo or gobium a few years ago (I forget who :oops: ).

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Re: WTB: Old Russian Shocks...

Post by Lmo » Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:51 pm

he trade-off is that they're remarkably poor performing compared to modern shocks
Easy to take apart UNLESS the hole(s) in the top cap are all cammed out.

Old Russian springs are crap too ... I'm trying to find a company to wind some new ones.

Hmmm... I've never seen this iteration before; SQUARE notches, or were they round holes that had been buggered up?
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Re: WTB: Old Russian Shocks...

Post by Tomcatfixer » Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:34 pm

Hmmm... I've never seen this iteration before; SQUARE notches, or were they round holes that had been buggered up?
I've got a couple different Russian shock variants.
Those ARE square notches. Weird, n'est pas?
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1993 Honda CBR600F2 - -1984 Yamaha FJ1100
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Re: WTB: Old Russian Shocks...

Post by Lmo » Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:03 am

Those ARE square notches. Weird, n'est pas?
Oui en effet!

Have you observed any INTERNAL differences? In particular, the damper valve disc(s)

Most have two 'notches', but some have only one..
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Re: WTB: Old Russian Shocks...

Post by Tomcatfixer » Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:03 am

Have you observed any INTERNAL differences? In particular, the damper valve disc(s)
Yes, and I'm getting "thread déjà vu". I feel like we discussed this previously.
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Re: WTB: Old Russian Shocks...

Post by rougaroo » Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:52 am

Deja-vu all over again.

Search for NiteBlues extensive thread on rebuilding his shocks. Scott took lots of pictures and compared various shocks and shock oil, too.

I was amazed how much better the shocks performed with new oil and seals. The old crud that came out had gotten thick, dirty, and there wasn't much of it left.

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Re: WTB: Old Russian Shocks...

Post by ReCycled » Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:03 pm

xpatriot wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:11 pm
Are they easy to rebuild? I saw a diagram that showed a lot of parts, but also hear it's very easy do if you have a compressor.
I have a 2x4/all-thread version of the tool if you need to borrow one.
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Re: WTB: Old Russian Shocks...

Post by Lmo » Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:16 pm

Yes, and I'm getting "thread déjà vu".
... it'll only hurt for a minute.

The seals and rubber bits are easy to find, the internal mechanical components, next to impossible. The little light-weight 'conical' springs in all of my shocks are trashed, having been overly compressed for years.

That's why I'm looking for some to tear down.
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Re: WTB: Old Russian Shocks...

Post by Tomcatfixer » Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:26 pm

The little light-weight 'conical' springs in all of my shocks are trashed, having been overly compressed for years.
Surely there's a Slavic source out there somewhere. At $36 (plus international shipping), whole shocks are relatively inexpensive from Russian Garage: https://russiangarage.com/index.php?cPa ... jp8afl8fm4

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Re: WTB: Old Russian Shocks...

Post by Lmo » Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:12 pm

Shipping is $4 more than the cost of the shock ... $52 shipping on a order of two shocks. Besides ... I don't need the whole thing.

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