Any Ideas on this Starter Issue?

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Any Ideas on this Starter Issue?

Post by VladTheBad » Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:07 pm

I've been trying to troubleshoot this starter issue and was hoping there were some ideas out there. Each time I press the electric starter I get a satisfying "clunk" from the solenoid moving, but the starter doesn't always turn. It's as if something is binding or keeping the solenoid from making its full travel and making electrical contact at the end of its stroke.

I've already dismounted and disassembled the starter once, and of course the problem does not replicate off the bike. I did notice that there is a metal gasket/shim where the solenoid mounts to the starter, and thought that removing this might engage the starter sooner in its travel. Do these come in different thicknesses?

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Re: Any Ideas on this Starter Issue?

Post by Tomcatfixer » Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:19 pm

Dead spot in your starter windings? On a 2019, it sounds like a warranty item, to me. :wink:
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Re: Any Ideas on this Starter Issue?

Post by RC20 » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:17 pm

I worked with a guy who rebuilt starters for diesel engines, well he said he did. Put in more than one that failed.

FedEx vehicle shop came the conclusion that rebuilt starters sucked, they would only install new one after too many failures.

You have that solenoid that has to pull in and move the works and make contact for the main windings. It seems simple and can work just peach keen fine outside, then you put it on and nada.

Long way of saying, Chad is right, something is wrong, I doubt a flat spot but it does not matter, something mucked up just enough no spinney and likely a new one needed regardless of cause.
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Re: Any Ideas on this Starter Issue?

Post by rivers » Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:34 pm

Insure your batt ground cable is clean and tight at both ends.
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Re: Any Ideas on this Starter Issue?

Post by wooden nickel » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:08 am

Actually it is best to check both ends of the ground cable and the positive cable that goes to the starter.
When my old starter died, it started to melt the positive post on the battery. Awhile after I installed the new starter, it gave hit or miss starting until I tracked down the offending positive post terminal bolt.
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Post by wooden nickel » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:08 am

Dratted double post.
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Re: Any Ideas on this Starter Issue?

Post by Long Travel » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:06 pm

I have a similar intermittent starting issue on my 2019 Sahara. It was an April delivery model in Australia. It’s not a big issue, it just sometimes takes two or three presses of the starter button and it fires up.

I believe it’s an issue with a change in the wiring on 2019 models. It may be something to do with an intermittent voltage drop, but I don't understand how that can happen. Apparently there is a relatively simple modification at the fuse box that can fix it. I suggest talking to your dealer about this.
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Re: Any Ideas on this Starter Issue?

Post by tubarick » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:38 pm

CHECK MY POST. WIRING HARNESS PROBLEM, NOT THE STARTER.
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Post by sbaker » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:57 pm

tubarick wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:38 pm
CHECK MY POST. WIRING HARNESS PROBLEM, NOT THE STARTER.
If you want us to check the post.. please post a link to your post........ Search is not coming up with your post.

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Re: Any Ideas on this Starter Issue?

Post by Lee Pape » Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:49 am

sbaker wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:57 pm
tubarick wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:38 pm
CHECK MY POST. WIRING HARNESS PROBLEM, NOT THE STARTER.
If you want us to check the post.. please post a link to your post........ Search is not coming up with your post.
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Re: Any Ideas on this Starter Issue?

Post by tubarick » Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:40 am

Sorry. I don't know how to use these features.
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Re: Any Ideas on this Starter Issue?

Post by VladTheBad » Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:37 am

Thanks for the wiring harness tip in the other post!
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