Cracked Wheel

Woe unto you that bought the first model year of a major remake, perhaps this section can help address any 2014 and later model Ural "imperfections". Here's a special section for folks with the latest rigs to discuss 2014 and later model-related topics such fuel injection, 3-wheel disc brakes, hydraulic steering dampers, spin-on oil filters and other anomalies that don't belong on true Russsian motorcycle ;-P We've gone from using big hammers and greasy wrenches to needing computers and Ouija boards in order to fix our rigs.
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Cracked Wheel

Post by Kthulu » Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:31 pm

Gah - got another cracked wheel. Nifty little hairline fractures between the spokes. The wheel was manufactured 10/2013. I had two wheels replaced under warranty a couple of years ago; now I'm out of warranty and dreading spending the big bucks for a replacement.

Had anyone had luck getting Ural to replace these messed up wheels out of warranty?
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Re: Cracked Wheel

Post by cookiemech » Tue Apr 02, 2019 5:12 am

Sorry to say that I tried and failed. I contacted IMZ and also a dealer and was told that there was "no warranty" for the three cracked rims on my 2014 GU with only about 5500 miles. So I bought three rims from Ural at about $160 each and laced them with stainless steel spokes from Buchanan's (also did the apparently OK spare rim).

Interesting note from Buchanan's is that the correct spoke torque is 30 to 35 inch-pounds, appreciably lower than the number shown in the 2014 (and likely others) owner's manual.
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Re: Cracked Wheel

Post by stagewex » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:55 am

cookiemech wrote:
Tue Apr 02, 2019 5:12 am
Interesting note from Buchanan's is that the correct spoke torque is 30 to 35 inch-pounds, appreciably lower than the number shown in the 2014 (and likely others) owner's manual.
That is interesting because it seems there were 2 issues with cracks. One being just bad metallurgy from whoever made the rims and second, the wrong spoke torque right from the factory.

I'd also just buy the rims only and have someplace like Buchanon (spendy but worth it) do the lacing with their own stainless-steel spokes. Made better and stronger for sidecar duty. At that expense don't use the ones from Ural. Or at least order the spokes from them and have them laced locally.

I just needed the hub from this wheel off a salvage bike. Bought a used steel rim from Terry and had all cleaned and powedercoated.
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One of my originals after riding 3 Winters. I did one wheel every few weeks:
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Christmas in July. This is how they ship them back-and-forth. For me NY to Ca. so shipping was part of the expense factor:
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The older steel rims made in the factory always had a somewhat weird-weld depending on perhaps what the worker had (drank?) for lunch. Buchanon rejected at least one of the rims I sent them and had to send another. It didn't have to be perfect as they'll compensate for lack of perfection. But apparently there is a limit to what they can do. At least ya got a leg-up on "roundness" nowadays. I went with polished stainless-steel and they look the same today (9-10 year later) as they do in this picture despite salt and anything else you can throw at them:
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3 months ago and still looks like Day #1.
Man, I really gotta do something about that exhaust. The wheel is making it look bad :) :
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Re: Cracked Wheel

Post by Kthulu » Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:02 pm

Thanks for the suggestion!

Sent some photos to my dealer; I'll let you know how it turns out.
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Re: Cracked Wheel

Post by RobH » Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:19 am

I've had a total of 5 rims crack on my 2014 GU... all where replaced by IMZ free of charge. The last batch of 4 about a month ago, the bike being well out of its warranty period. For what it's worth... the new type aluminum rims supplied by IMZ in the last go-round were made in late 2018 and come from Italy.

Time will tell if they are better than the old ones.

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Re: Cracked Wheel

Post by Kthulu » Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:45 am

Update - Woohoo! IMZ is going to replace my cracked rim. Fingers crossed this is the last one.
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Re: Cracked Wheel

Post by Happytrails » Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:51 am

Good news :)
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Re: Cracked Wheel

Post by AndyH » Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:22 pm

Good news indeed.

I went directly to Ural HQ in my country and they replaced the 2015 rim from my 2015 Tourist. I say 2015 rim because the pusher was a 2012 rim but the other 3 were 2015.
A good experience and I got some pro tips, on tuning and spoke tightness, from the wheel shop as well as getting the remaining hoops checked by an expert. Now I have a 2012 rim, 2 x 2015 and a 2018 that are all good.
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Re: Cracked Wheel

Post by Kthulu » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:29 am

Oh yeah - that looks familiar; my first two that were replaced were cracked badly like that. I caught this new one a lot earlier since I knew what to look for. Glad they got you fixed up as well!
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