Machinegun mount

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Machinegun mount

Post by tgellen » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:35 pm

I finally scraped together the money for it (old timers garage), but have run into a snag...the last two pics say it all. Suggestions?

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Re: Machinegun mount

Post by hotflash44 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:27 pm

tgellen wrote:
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I finally scraped together the money for it (old timers garage), but have run into a snag...the last two pics say it all. Suggestions?

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well there are several possibilities, IMO, looking at ww2 Zundapp/BMW pictures it sets further forward, but the spot light might be in the way. would assume the side car cover attachment could be removed or attached to the mount leg im sure you can make the mods. if your just going to install the gun mount for shows with your Mg-42 some sort of quick mount system might work. big issue is the location of the light and the side car cover snaps. good luck! look at this for ideas www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUtIXHhVRbU
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Re: Machinegun mount

Post by Tomcatfixer » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:45 pm

Remove the two outer common sense fasteners, install your machine gun mount, purchase some more fasteners here: https://www.amazon.com/Common-Fasteners ... B01N6RHAP0 , then modify your tonneau cover. No big deal.
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Re: Machinegun mount

Post by Burt1713 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:23 pm

Tomcatfixer wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:45 pm
Remove the two outer common sense fasteners, install your machine gun mount, purchase some more fasteners here: https://www.amazon.com/Common-Fasteners ... B01N6RHAP0 , then modify your tonneau cover. No big deal.
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Or you could have a new tonneau made at an upholstery shop.
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Re: Machinegun mount

Post by Tomcatfixer » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:35 pm

By the way, TJ, if you want to restore that purple tonneau cover back to it's original black glory, just buy a can of Krylon Fusion paint and spray it down. This paint is formulated to adhere to plastic, so it's perfect for reinvigorating that faded Cordura.
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Re: Machinegun mount

Post by hotflash44 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:01 pm

here is another bike with your exact gun mount, seems all are missing the spot light. /www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJl9cM3lOVA&t=174s
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Re: Machinegun mount

Post by tgellen » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:35 pm

Yeah, it looks like the spotlight has to be moved, if I want to keep it. Question is: Do I want to move it forward to where a pintle mount would go, or to the sidecar fender?
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Re: Machinegun mount

Post by windmill » Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:01 am

How often do you use it?

I converted mine to a second headlight, so I would move it forward just enough to clear. If rarely or never used, maybe just remove it, on the fender It would probably be in the way, and cause too much peripheral glare like having someone tailgating you with their high beams on.
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Re: Machinegun mount

Post by cateyetech » Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:40 am

Hey tgellen
Why don't you notch out the mg mount to clear your cover tabs?
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Re: Machinegun mount

Post by Tomcatfixer » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:20 am

I don't think you're grasping how easy the common sense fasteners are to remove and install. Or perhaps it's modifying the tonneau cover that's giving you pause? I don't understand why you must sacrifice the spotlight if you would prefer to keep it.
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Re: Machinegun mount

Post by tgellen » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:08 pm

Tomcatfixer wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:20 am
I don't think you're grasping how easy the common sense fasteners are to remove and install. Or perhaps it's modifying the tonneau cover that's giving you pause? I don't understand why you must sacrifice the spotlight if you would prefer to keep it.

I'm hesitant because I thought this was going to be simply drilling a few holes and installing it, but now it's getting more complicated.
It's also modifying the cover and the fasteners are pop-riveted in place, and I'm sure more will crop up along the way.


I was hoping for simple.
I deal with complicated stuff everyday (repairing/restoring antique jewelry)

Oh, well.

Now to find those twin Panzer lights.....
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Re: Machinegun mount

Post by tgellen » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:10 pm

cateyetech wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:40 am
Hey tgellen
Why don't you notch out the mg mount to clear your cover tabs?

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It's right under the upright part on that side.
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Re: Machinegun mount

Post by Tomcatfixer » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:12 pm

Drilling out and installing new pop-rivets is remarkably simple. Modifying the cover may take a professional, but the small amount of alteration necessary should incur minimal expense.
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