Cracked rims

Woe unto you that bought the first model year of a major remake, perhaps this section can help address any 2014 and later model Ural "imperfections". Here's a special section for folks with the latest rigs to discuss 2014 and later model-related topics such fuel injection, 3-wheel disc brakes, hydraulic steering dampers, spin-on oil filters and other anomalies that don't belong on true Russsian motorcycle ;-P We've gone from using big hammers and greasy wrenches to needing computers and Ouija boards in order to fix our rigs.
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Cracked rims

Post by RobH » Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:57 pm

Hello All,

Here is a cautionary tale for those of you with the same rims as my 2014 GU came with...

After installing the rebuilt motor (as told in another thread) I decided to change the pusher and spare tires. I found both rims were cracked. That caused me to have a look at the chair and front wheels, and those were also cracked.

The sidecar rim was already changed out once under warranty for cracking so this is a total of five rims on one bike. You'll notice from the pictures that the pusher wheel is just starting to crack at the spoke boss. The spare has cracks going from one boss to another and the other two rims are somewhere between these extremes. Sorry for the lousy picture quality.... very poor lighting.

I had loosened and properly set all the spokes after the sidecar wheel replacement, so I don't think this issue is due to over tightening... at least that's not the whole problem.

My bike is an early 2014 and I would urge everyone with rims from this period to examine them very closely. Having one of these come apart would truly ruin your day.

URAL is stepping up and is replacing all four rims with the new type as found on the 2019 machines.

cheers,

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Re: Cracked rims

Post by Abaxter593 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:09 pm

Ouch

I have a 2015 CT, but all of my rims are dated 2012 or 2013..... I bought the bike new, is that normal? Cracked rims are sketchy!

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Re: Cracked rims

Post by RobH » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:21 pm

I know that others have had this issue and I've heard that URAL has gone to a new vendor for rims. Mine are dated Oct and May of 2013.

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Re: Cracked rims

Post by Mr Wazzock » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:24 pm

They don't make their own any more?
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Re: Cracked rims

Post by RobH » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:27 pm

Per their web site... rims are supplied by a new vendor and are stronger.

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Re: Cracked rims

Post by Mr Wazzock » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:29 pm

Well! :o
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Re: Cracked rims

Post by Peter Pan » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:46 pm

Buddy "Medio Tico" in NC is going through the same story these days. Look at the rims, generally the bad rim batch is April 2012 (stamped on the rim) . Ural headquaters pull the trottle and help out. Charlotte distributor steps on the brakes.
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Re: Cracked rims

Post by hotflash44 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:55 am

does anyone know the date Ural installed the so called good rims. mine are 2016 and are good so far. :?:
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Post by Happytrails » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:44 am

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Re: Cracked rims

Post by AndyH » Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:31 pm

hotflash44 wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:55 am
does anyone know the date Ural installed the so called good rims. mine are 2016 and are good so far. :?:
Anecdotal evidence suggests 2016 - I haven't seen a post about cracked rims with a date stamp after 2015 unless I missed something.
Interestingly I have just had Ural replace a 2015 rim under warranty, which is very nice of them as the warranty has long since lapsed and the rim isn't an Apr 12 recall. Ural said that the biggest cause of cracking was over-tightening the spokes - I have no issue with that except it is one of the things I hadn't done. My cracking begun at the valve hole - weakest place.
The guy doing the re-lace and true had another full set of Ural rims in for repair/replacement and questioned the ethnicity of the rims - he thinks they might be from China - doubts they are from Japan due to the finish and quality.
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Re: Cracked rims

Post by cookiemech » Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:45 pm

Well, my 2014 GU has/had cracked rims on all three of the wheels that touched the ground (spare never used and not cracked). With only 5500 miles total, this seems like a safety issue due to manufacturing defect, but the selling dealer and IMZ both say "too bad". So I've ordered new rims and spokes and I'm lacing up wheels.

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Re: Cracked rims

Post by stagewex » Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:03 pm

Are these the old steel wheels or the first batch of aluminum ones?

I have steel rims on my old '07 and never read anything about cracked rims until that bad batch manufactured sometime in 2012 that seemed to continue to be used year after year.

Biggest problem with the old steel rims was most were not actually round depending on who was running the welder that day. But they were tough and you could compensate lack of roundness with a good lacing.
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Re: Cracked rims

Post by windmill » Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:51 pm

stagewex wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:03 pm
Are these the old steel wheels or the first batch of aluminum ones?

I have steel rims on my old '07 and never read anything about cracked rims until that bad batch manufactured sometime in 2012 that seemed to continue to be used year after year.

Biggest problem with the old steel rims was most were not actually round depending on who was running the welder that day. But they were tough and you could compensate lack of roundness with a good lacing.
I had 2 steel rims crack on my 07, others did too, it's easy to forget after so many years. Changed my 07 to alloy rims as soon as they were available, and never had any issues with them on either of my rigs.
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Re: Cracked rims

Post by GoPapi » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:37 pm

cookiemech wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:45 pm
Well, my 2014 GU has/had cracked rims on all three of the wheels that touched the ground (spare never used and not cracked). With only 5500 miles total, this seems like a safety issue due to manufacturing defect, but the selling dealer and IMZ both say "too bad". So I've ordered new rims and spokes and I'm lacing up wheels.

Different policies for Canadian and US owners?
Last october I found two cracked rims dated sept 2012 on my 2013 Tourist and contacted my dealer to see if they were covered by a recall or a extended warranty. The official response was that apr 2012 rims are covered by a recall and all other aluminum rims are covered by a extended 6 year warranty from time of purchase or 15,000 km.

I am in Quebec, Canada so this applies to Canadian clients also. So if I were you Cookiemech, I would go back to my dealer and have him do his work or call IMZ headquarters in Redmond, WA, 425-702-8484 speak or leave a message with Jason Rae. He is responsible for warranty repairs. Thats what I had to do to get a reply after three and a half months of waiting. I must make it clear here that the delay wasn't caused by IMZ but by my dealer. As soon as Jason got my message he contacted the dealer to make sure I got the info. I know we shouldn't call directly to IMZ ourselves but this is some major expense.
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Re: Cracked rims

Post by windmill » Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:55 pm

Abaxter593 wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:09 pm
I have a 2015 CT, but all of my rims are dated 2012 or 2013..... I bought the bike new, is that normal?
Yes, my 2018 M70 has 2 rims dated 2015, and 2 rims 2016.
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