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Re: Hard starting '14.

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:10 pm
by Tomcatfixer
Now if someone could just fix the powdercoat...
>AHEM<
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Re: Hard starting '14.

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:16 pm
by eastbloc
Update: I have now managed to kickstart, cold, in 15 degree weather, on the fourth kick, after the application of starter fluid into the air box.

Re: Hard starting '14.

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:32 pm
by hotflash44
eastbloc wrote:
Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:11 pm
Yeah, hurray for Soviet Steeds, for sure. It’s been a pleasure problem solving with you guys. Glad I didn’t impulsively but another Ural.

Now if someone could just fix the powdercoat...
thats a easy fix just a quick repaint all fixed! :boogie: :cheers:

Re: Hard starting '14.

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:54 pm
by eastbloc
Not just repaint -- completely strip and repaint. Which is probably going to be a lot more expensive than sourcing used bodywork as things rot.

Re: Hard starting '14.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:43 am
by Tomcatfixer
Again, I suggest...
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Re: Hard starting '14.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:10 am
by eastbloc
Tomcatfixer wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:43 am
Again, I suggest...
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Sure, I get it, and would happily trade the PC for the bedliner. but how does this help with the fact that there’s a layer of rust between the powder coat and the sheet metal?

Re: Hard starting '14.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:39 am
by Tomcatfixer
but how does this help with the fact that there’s a layer of rust between the powder coat and the sheet metal?
I'm not saying it will be cheap or easy, but there ARE solutions that will all but guarantee you won't have the same thing happen again.

Re: Hard starting '14.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:18 am
by eastbloc
Final update on the hard starting saga. This morning, it is 12oF, and the motor is stone cold, hasn't been run in over 14 hours. A spray and four or five kicks and it comes to life. Almost as easily as the 650.

To me, this means the starter can once again become a totally obsolete accessory despite the fuel injection, resolving my most significant objection to my '14. While I do want this trick to work without a spray can, had we come up with this prior to my futzing around with Taiwanese starters and car batteries, I probably would have skipped all that.

Thank you everyone for helping me wrack my brains on this one, and to Chad in particular for his "simplified starter fluid tek." It's nice to feel reassured that there is always a rational explanation for everything, even when there's a damned computer (or two) in the middle of the thing :)

Re: Hard starting '14.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:23 am
by Tomcatfixer
Thank you everyone for helping me wrack my brains on this one, and to Chad in particular for his "simplified starter fluid tek."
Bah! I think someone else suggested trying the starting fluid. I just found an easy way to squirt it into the airbox. :cheers:

Re: Hard starting '14.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:06 am
by eastbloc
Yes, thanks also to Barry for pioneering the technique :) it takes a village, and I’m happy to be the idiot of this one.

I do still wonder what it is that makes some FI Urals more cold-blooded than others.

By the way, I did discover today that it is easy to overdo it with the starter fluid, in which case you will need to rev it a little bit to clear it out or it will run like garbage and possibly foul the plugs. A quick, split-second spray is all that you need.

Re: Hard starting '14.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:07 am
by Mr Wazzock
eastbloc wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:18 am
Final update on the hard starting saga. This morning, it is 12oF, and the motor is stone cold, hasn't been run in over 14 hours. A spray and four or five kicks and it comes to life. Almost as easily as the 650.
. . .
:boogie:

Re: Hard starting '14.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:57 am
by windmill
eastbloc wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:06 am
Yes, thanks also to Barry for pioneering the technique :) it takes a village, and I’m happy to be the idiot of this one.
Starting fluid and fuel in the intake for cold weather starting has been around a lot longer than I have, I'm just another one of the idiots to forget the simplest solution, and over think it......... :foilhead:

Re: Hard starting '14.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:19 am
by Mr Wazzock
Village idiot joke: (imagine the following said in country yokel dialect): "Wha's that you got thar then?" - "This? This is moi front door." - "What you carryin' that around for then?" - "Lost the key hav'n' oi?"

Re: Hard starting '14.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:41 pm
by hotflash44
Mr Wazzock wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:19 am
Village idiot joke: (imagine the following said in country yokel dialect): "Wha's that you got thar then?" - "This? This is moi front door." - "What you carryin' that around for then?" - "Lost the key hav'n' oi?"
Man thats the worse Hillbilly accent i ever seen written :boogie: :boogie:

Re: Hard starting '14.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:46 pm
by Mr Wazzock
Not supposed to be hillbilly, so I guess it was Image