Connected to ECU's and Balanced Throttle Bodies!!!!!!!

Woe unto you that bought the first model year of a major remake, perhaps this section can help address any 2014 and later model Ural "imperfections". Here's a special section for folks with the latest rigs to discuss 2014 and later model-related topics such fuel injection, 3-wheel disc brakes, hydraulic steering dampers, spin-on oil filters and other anomalies that don't belong on true Russsian motorcycle ;-P We've gone from using big hammers and greasy wrenches to needing computers and Ouija boards in order to fix our rigs.
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Re: Connected to ECU's and Balanced Throttle Bodies!!!!!!!

Post by Albuquralque » Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:47 pm

Ajax wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:34 pm
Maybe someone can help me figure out why my intake pressure reading stays the same throughout a rpm range.

I double checked PID settings and they test fine. The readings for cyl temp reads fine but pressure stays at .73 psi. I'm using an OBDLink puck and software. Firmware is up to date. Everything is functioning normally with all other gauges.

Need to be reading in metric.......kPa
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Re: Connected to ECU's and Balanced Throttle Bodies!!!!!!!

Post by Ajax » Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:14 pm

Does the same in metric too.
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Post by Tomcatfixer » Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:22 am

It doesn't need to be Metric. I've used PSI since I set mine up. Ajax, you must have some little PID syntax error.
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Post by rebelrider » Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:13 am

I had a similar problem. I don't remember the exact solution, but it was after I fiddled with the settings for a while. Once it started working, I was able to get readings in both kPa and PSI.

I think I may have deleted that particular PID and reloaded it. I'm not sure. I did have an issue that was fixed by changing the range that the gauge reads. Sorry I can't be more specific. It was quite a while ago.
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Post by Mr Wazzock » Mon Apr 08, 2019 8:19 am

Are the settings correct, e.g. each cylinder has a unique ID, but can't remember what
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Re: Connected to ECU's and Balanced Throttle Bodies!!!!!!!

Post by Ajax » Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:37 pm

The only letter "O" is the "OB" under PID number the rest of the "0"'s are zeros?
Been playing with priority setting but no affect. I'll try the range next.
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Post by hotflash44 » Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:01 am

Albuquralque wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:47 pm
Ajax wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:34 pm
Maybe someone can help me figure out why my intake pressure reading stays the same throughout a rpm range.

I double checked PID settings and they test fine. The readings for cyl temp reads fine but pressure stays at .73 psi. I'm using an OBDLink puck and software. Firmware is up to date. Everything is functioning normally with all other gauges.

Need to be reading in metric.......kPa
Darrell, i know where i got my good working PIDs :wink: , but where do people get them, like some of the previous post people? are they in print,will IMZ supply. :? :cheers:
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Re: Connected to ECU's and Balanced Throttle Bodies!!!!!!!

Post by Albuquralque » Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:01 pm

hotflash44 wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:01 am
Albuquralque wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:47 pm
Ajax wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:34 pm
Maybe someone can help me figure out why my intake pressure reading stays the same throughout a rpm range.

I double checked PID settings and they test fine. The readings for cyl temp reads fine but pressure stays at .73 psi. I'm using an OBDLink puck and software. Firmware is up to date. Everything is functioning normally with all other gauges.

Need to be reading in metric.......kPa
Darrell, i know where i got my good working PIDs :wink: , but where do people get them, like some of the previous post people? are they in print,will IMZ supply. :? :cheers:

They are free to pm me and I will send them the predefined PID files and instructions
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Re: Connected to ECU's and Balanced Throttle Bodies!!!!!!!

Post by hotflash44 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:46 am

Albuquralque wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 11:01 pm
hotflash44 wrote:
Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:01 am
Albuquralque wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:47 pm
Ajax wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:34 pm
Maybe someone can help me figure out why my intake pressure reading stays the same throughout a rpm range.

I double checked PID settings and they test fine. The readings for cyl temp reads fine but pressure stays at .73 psi. I'm using an OBDLink puck and software. Firmware is up to date. Everything is functioning normally with all other gauges.

Need to be reading in metric.......kPa
Darrell, i know where i got my good working PIDs :wink: , but where do people get them, like some of the previous post people? are they in print,will IMZ supply. :? :cheers:

They are free to pm me and I will send them the predefined PID files and instructions
Thanks Darrell. your the best and i will vouch that these are the correct values and work perfect on my OBDwiz. :cheers:
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Re: Connected to ECU's and Balanced Throttle Bodies!!!!!!!

Post by cabrown56 » Tue Apr 23, 2019 3:24 pm

Has anyone done this for the 2017 Ural which has the round 4pin connector. Want to balance mine too but cannot find connectors adaptor to fit.?

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Post by Tomcatfixer » Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:12 pm

Yes, Burt1713 makes the adapters. Look in the black market.
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Post by pbrowne » Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:58 am

If the port is the one below the seat on the left under the cover, mine is much different. It's round with 4 pins. Is there another port elsewhere on the bike?
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Post by Mr Wazzock » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:04 pm

No that is it. So it's as per the last two posts before yours then? :D
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Post by pbrowne » Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:54 am

Can someone please tell me where that plug is located, I don't see on with that form factor.
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Post by Tomcatfixer » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:15 am

pbrowne wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:54 am
Can someone please tell me where that plug is located, I don't see on with that form factor.
I am unclear as to which plug you are referring, but if you look on Page 5 of this thread, you will see the 2014-2016 six-pin MOLEX connector (a diagram of which is on Page 1) AND the 4-pin cannon-plug style connector used on 2017 and newer Urals to obtain OBD-II diagnostic information.
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2015 Ural cT "Mobile Chernobyl", 2001 Ural Patrol "The Patrol", 1999 Ural Tourist "The RPOC", 1994 Honda VFR750F

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2007 Honda VTR1000 FireStorm (Super Hawk in U.S.)
2001 Buell Blast! - - - - - - - 2005 Yamaha FJR1300
1993 Honda CBR600F2 - -1984 Yamaha FJ1100
Two different 1986 Yamaha FZX700S Fazers

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