Connected to ECU's and Balanced Throttle Bodies!!!!!!!

Woe unto you that bought the first model year of a major remake, perhaps this section can help address any 2014 and later model Ural "imperfections". Here's a special section for folks with the latest rigs to discuss 2014 and later model-related topics such fuel injection, 3-wheel disc brakes, hydraulic steering dampers, spin-on oil filters and other anomalies that don't belong on true Russsian motorcycle ;-P We've gone from using big hammers and greasy wrenches to needing computers and Ouija boards in order to fix our rigs.
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Re: Connected to ECU's and Balanced Throttle Bodies!!!!!!!

Post by Tomcatfixer » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:28 am

LOL, I think it is Ukrainian firmware, but the article I read showed a keygen for the official firmware, maybe there's multiple ways to root your tractor.
Sounds about right. I was trying to recall an article I had read a while back, but I guess I've got one of those 'Quantum Leap' Swiss cheese memories. :wink:
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Post by AndyH » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:37 pm

harryball wrote:
Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:56 am
To confirm 7E0 is the LEFT Outboard ECU and 7E1 is the RIGHT Inboard ECU, correct?
Looks like no one answered this?
On my setup that is correct. Easiest way to check is pop the head temp sensor off and fire it up - will show an error on that side.
If you are talking about which ECU to read when the connection dialogue box comes up, it doesn't matter.
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Post by eastbloc » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:09 am

Has anyone cracked the codes yet? Mine shows these ten on both ECUs.
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Post by hotflash44 » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:32 am

eastbloc wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:09 am
Has anyone cracked the codes yet? Mine shows these ten on both ECUs.

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all the codes are online but do they cross over to the Electrojet ecu??? here is example of the top one on the list , P0001 DTC Fuel Volume Regulator Control Circuit/Open
www.obd-codes.com/p0001

P0001 Fuel Volume Regulator Control Circuit/Open OBD-II Trouble Code Technical Description. Fuel Volume Regulator Control Circuit/Open. What does that mean? This diagnostic trouble code (DTC) is a generic powertrain code, which means that it applies to OBD-II equipped vehicles, including but not limited to Ford, Dodge, Vauxhall, VW, Mazda, etc.

OBD Code P0001
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Post by eastbloc » Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:30 am

That P0001 is the only one I have that is documented on the OBD-codes site.
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Post by Mr Wazzock » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:01 pm

hotflash44 wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:32 am
eastbloc wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:09 am
Has anyone cracked the codes yet? Mine shows these ten on both ECUs.

F936BE95-D1E8-43ED-AD67-DC55CB5489E9.jpeg
all the codes are online but do they cross over to the Electrojet ecu???
No.

P0001 - Fuel Volume Regulator Control Circuit/Open, this relates to electrical control of the fuel pressure regulator, Ural doesn't have that.

P1005 - Manifold Tuning Valve Control open or short circuit. Ural does not have such a valve.

P2800 - this is a doozy - relates to automatic transmission range switch, i.e. the stick what does the P, R, N and D positions. Again Ural doesn't have that.

Etcetera...

These seem to be a bunch of red herrings. Maybe the software is calling them up, the ECU's are giving them but they are out of range, or in actual fact Not Applicable.

Don't know what the 'C' codes are, nothing on the net for them.

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Post by eastbloc » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:30 pm

Mr Wazzock wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:01 pm

P2800 - this is a doozy - relates to automatic transmission range switch, i.e. the stick what does the P, R, N and D positions. Again Ural doesn't have that.
Interestingly, my bike does have an issue with the neutral light at the moment, but I somehow doubt the ECU has any way to know about that :lol:
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Post by eastbloc » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:33 pm

My bike also starts like dogsh#t, it takes multiple long cranking sessions for it to fire at all, takes forever to warm up, and before it does, it has an awful hesitation off idle, though it runs perfectly after about 10 minutes of warming up. So the codes are a potentially interesting corollary to this condition.
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Post by hotflash44 » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:11 pm

eastbloc wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:33 pm
My bike also starts like dogsh#t, it takes multiple long cranking sessions for it to fire at all, takes forever to warm up, and before it does, it has an awful hesitation off idle, though it runs perfectly after about 10 minutes of warming up. So the codes are a potentially interesting corollary to this condition.
might check the crank/flywheel position sensor, easy to look, at not sure how to tell if its working properly tho. maybe a continuity check just a thought.my 2016 when warm starts fast, when not run in several days takes a couple of hits on starter button. i keep my idle at about 850/900 rpm, notice the frame sticker says 850 rpm most of the guys like 1050 ish,anyway if the bike has been setting for several days i give about a half inch twist on the throttle then hit the starter it usually fires up faster. seems at my low idle rpm maybe it doesn't get enough gas to pop off when cold ?? :cheers:
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Post by Mr Wazzock » Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:56 pm

May or may not help, but mine (2016 CT) doesn't like being started but then not used. (Meaning, actually go out on a journey.) Next time it's a pig, mucho grinding the battery while repeatedly pumping the throttle WOT to closed, I figured it's because the inlets are still full of gas from the last short start up so now it's too rich to run. Holding the starter button down with the throttle open helps 'cause it pulls some fresh air thru to clear it (and also it won't spark or inject 'cause it can't detect a vacuum unless throttles are shut).
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Post by stefano1979 » Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:39 pm

I have this problem ... can someone help me? Thanks.
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Post by Tomcatfixer » Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:52 pm

I have this problem ... can someone help me? Thanks.
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Please upload a more readable image.
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Post by stefano1979 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:49 am

This is the error...
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Re: Connected to ECU's and Balanced Throttle Bodies!!!!!!!

Post by Albuquralque » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:03 am

stefano1979 wrote:
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This is the error...

What year and model Ural do you have?

Have you verified that you have +12VDC and ground at the bike's OBD connector? And that those two pins are the same as on your OBD adapter cable?

With your OBD adapter cable connected to the bike, key on, and BRS set to run......you should have +12VDC on pin 16 of the OBD connector. Pins 4 and 5 of OBD connector should be ground.
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