2015 Camo Gear Up Oil change: Oh NO!

Woe unto you that bought the first model year of a major remake, perhaps this section can help address any 2014 and later model Ural "imperfections". Here's a special section for folks with the latest rigs to discuss 2014 and later model-related topics such fuel injection, 3-wheel disc brakes, hydraulic steering dampers, spin-on oil filters and other anomalies that don't belong on true Russsian motorcycle ;-P We've gone from using big hammers and greasy wrenches to needing computers and Ouija boards in order to fix our rigs.
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2015 Camo Gear Up Oil change: Oh NO!

Post by lochinvar » Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:14 am

First, I have a 2015 "Russian" Camo Gear Up. I have done all the oil changes, most all the services (except EFI TB balancing)

My 5000KM oil change I thought the swarf particles were a little large, so I posted them here. http://sovietsteeds.com/forums/viewtopi ... 23&t=39095
This was coupled with my first two valve adjustments were pretty scary: the intake valves both sides were approx 1/4in before adjustment! Subsequent checks showed them settling in seemingly okay. However, comparing the valve noise to my old 2011, they are noisy. They are still noisy after right after an adjustment.

For those who are keeping track of the oil threads, I switched from Dino oil (Castrol GTX 20-50) to Valvoline full synthetic 20-50 on my 5000km oil change.

Well, on my third oil change (I am at 9347 KMS, so a little early on my 10000), this is what greeted me on the oil plug magnet:
Swarf 1.jpg
swarf 2.jpg
Obviously, I will send this to my dealer (Paul in Portland) and also Jason in Redmond (where I got the bike).

Where did THAT come from? Lifters?
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Re: 2015 Camo Gear Up Oil change: Oh NO!

Post by gobium » Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:17 am

Bearing cage
on rear or front crank shaft
bad news

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Re: 2015 Camo Gear Up Oil change: Oh NO!

Post by GillaFunk » Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:32 am

Thank god for that warranty.
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Re: 2015 Camo Gear Up Oil change: Oh NO!

Post by gobium » Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:34 am

GillaFunk wrote:Thank god for that warranty.
I bought a lifetime warranty on my ural .
Piece of mind :wink:

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Re: 2015 Camo Gear Up Oil change: Oh NO!

Post by berger » Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:35 am

Still with these issues eh? You can improve the fuel system, better the brakes, but the engine QC is still shite.
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Re: 2015 Camo Gear Up Oil change: Oh NO!

Post by gobium » Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:40 am

berger wrote:Still with these issues eh? You can improve the fuel system, better the brakes, but the engine QC is still shite.
+1
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build you own.

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Re: 2015 Camo Gear Up Oil change: Oh NO!

Post by propwash » Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:51 am

berger wrote:Still with these issues eh? You can improve the fuel system, better the brakes, but the engine QC is still shite.
I'd say it is less QC and more poor quality bearings. Where is IMZ sourcing bearings now-a-days??
The nannies, noobs and marketers have ruined this place.

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Re: 2015 Camo Gear Up Oil change: Oh NO!

Post by MartyL » Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:01 am

No motorcycle is immune...
It's how the dealers and company responds is what matters....
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Re: 2015 Camo Gear Up Oil change: Oh NO!

Post by knucks » Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:08 am

This is the type of stuff I see and think "$#!+"

At the rate I ride, I won't see these issues until warranty is up and then I'm boned

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Re: 2015 Camo Gear Up Oil change: Oh NO!

Post by gobium » Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:21 am

propwash wrote:
berger wrote:Still with these issues eh? You can improve the fuel system, better the brakes, but the engine QC is still shite.
I'd say it is less QC and more poor quality bearings. Where is IMZ sourcing bearings now-a-days??
Same place where they got th aluminum rims.
these are not new problems, dated back a few years

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Re: 2015 Camo Gear Up Oil change: Oh NO!

Post by propwash » Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:50 am

Warranty or not, I would not be very happy if my new almost 20k moto was down for months while the engine was torn apart.
This is an uber drag for lochinvar.
The nannies, noobs and marketers have ruined this place.

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Re: 2015 Camo Gear Up Oil change: Oh NO!

Post by gobium » Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:56 am

propwash wrote:Warranty or not, I would not be very happy if my new almost 20k moto was down for months while the engine was torn apart.
This is an uber drag for lochinvar.
Just my guess opinion .
Imwa will not swap out for new engine .
Therefore down time .
They rather rebuild engine in Redmond , Washington because it would better than factory irbit engine

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Re: 2015 Camo Gear Up Oil change: Oh NO!

Post by Lokiboy » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:00 pm

If it's just one piece that broke off, is it ok to leave alone? Asking as if an owner was no longer under warranty.
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Re: 2015 Camo Gear Up Oil change: Oh NO!

Post by gobium » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:07 pm

Lokiboy wrote:If it's just one piece that broke off, is it ok to leave alone? Asking as if an owner was no longer under warranty.
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he mentioned his 2015 efi ural noisier than his old 2011 carbon ural

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Re: 2015 Camo Gear Up Oil change: Oh NO!

Post by lochinvar » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:16 pm

Thanks guys. Of course I am not happy with this.
I am happy I have a warranty. I know that Redmond guys will make good on it, and yes, I am not going to be happy with the downtime. As a matter of fact, I am pi$$ed, as I was looking forward to some good winter rides here in WA.

I don't really want yet another Irbit engine and hope Sergey will rebuild it.

Just put on KLR handlebars and new heated grips! :gahhh:
2015 Russian Camo Gear Up
2011 Nato Camo Gear Up (Traded in on the 2015)
1968 Honda K0 CT90, 1969 Honda K1 CT90, 1971 K3 CT90
Used to have:
A great many rice-burning street bikes of old and many great Enduro bikes raced actively in the golden age of bikes.

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