EFI mapping....yea or nay ???

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Re: EFI mapping....yea or nay ???

Post by MartyL » Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:01 am

I'm just making an assumption so take it for what it is. I think allot has to do with just the rigs braking in. Maybe what will be found is that there will be a new,"first mapping" while breaking in, then a 2nd. after break in?
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Post by POROMPOPERO » Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:34 am

sunnyboy wrote:
POROMPOPERO wrote:
Roadking wrote:
Coluralado wrote:To help support Sunnyboy's comments......

I am still running EFI map 1.3. I go out to my rig everymorning, hit the estart and it starts right up, idles fine, and I can let it sit there for a couple of minutes warming up. I drive it 16 miles or so each day to work, and it is smooth, comfortable, and a complete joy to ride. When I get off of work, the routine is much the same.

Don't get me wrong, I love wrenching on a Ural, but there is also great satisfaction in knowing the rig is going to run right everytime I get on it!

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Couldn't agree more. I hit the start button once, and it starts. I let it idle for a few minutes, and it stays running with no attention needed. I get on, and ride. It rides smooth, no issues.


is not a question of supporting or not Ilya, it seems clear to me that we (here) all support Ilya, at least the logic so determines. It is just a technical opinion, with or without value, of people trying to help. It`s up to Ilya to separate what matters from what does not.
What I heard is that some guys in france made ​​some changes in the compression rate and obtained good results with this EFI, hence they concluded that this would be the way. If they`re right or not i don`t know, but if this is enough to get some "nice" comments by Ilya ... think not.

Good to know that your bikes behave well, as indeed many others I know. It is also good that the 2014 owners who are happy with the bikes (the majority), say here again and again (as you do) to let people know the truth about this issue and not just the bad part as almost always happens.
Did not mean to ofence you, really. What I was trying to say is that we need first hand experience at this point more than anything else. No matter how many tests you do, the serial product and real life experience is completely different story. As of now there are no serial bikes ridden in Europe vs. close to fifty here in the States. What you read on Eurpean forums are theories, interesting maybe, but theories.

We don't see major issues with the current EFI mapping. From what we hear, there are two areas for improvements:
- the mixture seems a bit too lean at the start and low RPM,
- the new map seems not behaving as well at higher elevation.
Nothing which can't be solved with even more testing and tweaking with software.

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Post by planeflyer21 » Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:36 pm

Whew!

Glad to know about the finger shaking. I was planning on kicking mine when I get it, while yelling "C'mon your RPOC!" :D
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Post by POROMPOPERO » Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:27 am

Do you mean retained products of Conception, placental and/or fetal tissue that remains in the uterus after a spontaneous pregnancy loss ??????!!!!!
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Post by JohnBG » Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:34 am

POROMPOPERO wrote:Do you mean retained products of Conception, placental and/or fetal tissue that remains in the uterus after a spontaneous pregnancy loss ??????!!!!!
UHAUUUU ! :o
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Re: EFI mapping....yea or nay ???

Post by todd » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:48 pm

Got my remap and it fixed the stumble about 80% but now have no mid or top speed power. Before remap I could cruise at 55mph without a problem and now I struggle to maintain 55mph. Sucks.

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Post by Leftka » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:46 am

Again...feeling really good 'bout my 2012 Tourist...34 mpg, runs like a banshee, and no stumbles...oh and $11,800 out the door...and I can tune the bejesuses out of it without a laptop...
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Post by Albuquralque » Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:39 am

Leftka wrote:Again...feeling really good 'bout my 2012 Tourist...34 mpg, runs like a banshee, and no stumbles...oh and $11,800 out the door...and I can tune the bejesuses out of it without a laptop...
All the above statements are true; however, you forgot one significant fact: The blue ones are faster! :D
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Post by Leftka » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:31 pm

Coluralado wrote:
Leftka wrote:Again...feeling really good 'bout my 2012 Tourist...34 mpg, runs like a banshee, and no stumbles...oh and $11,800 out the door...and I can tune the bejesuses out of it without a laptop...
All the above statements are true; however, you forgot one significant fact: The blue ones are faster! :D
That science is settled...red is the fastest of all colors...and if you are stumbling off idle AND you are blue...well let's face it, you're eating my dust... :P
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Re: EFI mapping....yea or nay ???

Post by Albuquralque » Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:42 pm

Leftka wrote:
Coluralado wrote:
Leftka wrote:Again...feeling really good 'bout my 2012 Tourist...34 mpg, runs like a banshee, and no stumbles...oh and $11,800 out the door...and I can tune the bejesuses out of it without a laptop...
All the above statements are true; however, you forgot one significant fact: The blue ones are faster! :D
That science is settled...red is the fastest of all colors...and if you are stumbling off idle AND you are blue...well let's face it, you're eating my dust... :P
No stumble here! :P
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Re: EFI mapping....yea or nay ???

Post by Leftka » Sun Apr 20, 2014 10:48 pm

Coluralado wrote:
Leftka wrote:
Coluralado wrote:
Leftka wrote:Again...feeling really good 'bout my 2012 Tourist...34 mpg, runs like a banshee, and no stumbles...oh and $11,800 out the door...and I can tune the bejesuses out of it without a laptop...
All the above statements are true; however, you forgot one significant fact: The blue ones are faster! :D
That science is settled...red is the fastest of all colors...and if you are stumbling off idle AND you are blue...well let's face it, you're eating my dust... :P
No stumble here! :P
Still blue, still eating dust.
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Re: EFI mapping....yea or nay ???

Post by MartyL » Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:55 am

This Red vs. Blue thing reminds me of,"Spy vs. Spy" from Mad Magazine... :roll:
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Post by Albuquralque » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:35 am

MartyL wrote:This Red vs. Blue thing reminds me of,"Spy vs. Spy" from Mad Magazine... :roll:

Excellent comparison MartyL! :thumbsup:
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Post by Albuquralque » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:37 am

Blue is the fastest color!

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