EFI mapping....yea or nay ???

Woe unto you that bought the first model year of a major remake, perhaps this section can help address any 2014 and later model Ural "imperfections". Here's a special section for folks with the latest rigs to discuss 2014 and later model-related topics such fuel injection, 3-wheel disc brakes, hydraulic steering dampers, spin-on oil filters and other anomalies that don't belong on true Russsian motorcycle ;-P We've gone from using big hammers and greasy wrenches to needing computers and Ouija boards in order to fix our rigs.
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Re: EFI mapping....yea or nay ???

Post by JohnBG » Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:52 pm

MartyL wrote:Just a thought, but is there a possibility that perhaps this is just a symptom of an engine not broke in yet? Maybe things need to bed in alittle?
True dat...

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Post by siberman1 » Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:55 pm

MartyL wrote:Just a thought, but is there a possibility that perhaps this is just a symptom of an engine not broke in yet? Maybe things need to bed in alittle?
FWIW
At Ural Demo I noticed "Very Noticeable" difference between Ural with 2500 Kms and one with only 26Kms. Yes the EFI maps were different, but the higher Kms on one Ural made smoother than the other one. Both sputtered a little, but neither was that bad.


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Post by tx2sturgis » Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:46 pm

n3303j wrote:How hard would it be to retrofit these things with carburetors? :lol:
If we did THAT, we'd have to find a use for that extra light on the dash...

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Post by Lee Pape » Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:45 am

If it did not pop and fart when it is cold how would we ever know it was a Ural. What do you want a Hontarsuzkawmeer with a hack? :sarcasm:
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Post by Albuquralque » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:10 pm

54vintage wrote:
Coluralado wrote:
MartyL wrote:Just a thought, but is there a possibility that perhaps this is just a symptom of an engine not broke in yet? Maybe things need to bed in alittle?
Good point MartyL. With any adjustment/modification of the EFI, the "learned info" is erased and you have to start new. It takes time for the EFI to gather this info as you ride.
So what you're saying Darrell is that like Hal...someday the rig is going to get too smart and lock me out....I can just see it now..." I'm sorry chuck, but I can't let you ride today" :wink:
I think Urals do that now whether they have EFI or not! :lol:
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Post by n3303j » Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:24 pm

Lee Pape wrote:If it did not pop and fart when it is cold how would we ever know it was a Ural. What do you want a Hontarsuzkawmeer with a hack? :sarcasm:
Sort of like the HD exhaust pattern "po ta to" sound.
http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/law/st_org ... 01101.html
Now we have a universally identifiable Ural sound. :lol:
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Post by POROMPOPERO » Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:52 pm

More wood to the fire ... sorry
Some say (European forums) one or two things that may concern us. There are some respected experts who say that is not going to be possible to conciliate this engine with EFI technology. they will have to change a lot in admission and lower the mechanical tolerances. They speak in new valves and new shape of piston top surface .... As I understand wood and little else, for me is Chinese but coming from who came it may be true ....
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Post by cdscoot » Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:58 pm

POROMPOPERO wrote:More wood to the fire ... sorry
Some say (European forums) one or two things that may concern us. There are some respected experts who say that is not going to be possible to conciliate this engine with EFI technology. they will have to change a lot in admission and lower the mechanical tolerances. They speak in new valves and new shape of piston top surface .... As I understand wood and little else, for me is Chinese but coming from who came it may be true ....
How about some links ?
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Post by POROMPOPERO » Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:28 pm

I'm gonna ask my dealer, heard it from him ...
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Post by GHGoodwin » Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:44 pm

So we all agree that any URAL is a work in progress. :wink:
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Post by Albuquralque » Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:16 pm

GHGoodwin wrote:So we all agree that any URAL is a work in progress. :wink:

Yes
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Post by Xradrider » Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:01 pm

Took my 14 GU out for an evening ride and noticed that I can't see much of the speedometer, the light is weak and flickers. Is it another of the character traits of the Ural? Not that I am concerned about breaking any land speed records.

Also can tell you that the hesitation gets better as the engine warms up with occasional hiccups after that.

Have you noticed the sloppy fit of the new dash or is it just mine?
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Post by redtails » Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:09 pm

Xradrider wrote:Took my 14 GU out for an evening ride and noticed that I can't see much of the speedometer, the light is weak and flickers. Is it another of the character traits of the Ural? Not that I am concerned about breaking any land speed records.

Also can tell you that the hesitation gets better as the engine warms up with occasional hiccups after that.

Have you noticed the sloppy fit of the new dash or is it just mine?
When it rains, it pours, eh? No, mine is in alignment, and my light does not flicker on the speedo, that looks funky to me. :?
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Post by Albuquralque » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:21 pm

Dim speedo lights......they all do that!

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Post by Albuquralque » Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:21 pm

Alignment of headlight is off.

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