Rust
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- Kilometers2
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Rust
My new to me 2017 Sahara bought last month with 480 miles on it shows signs of what I take to be road use on salty roads. It was sold originally by Ural of NE and the original owner put only 277 miles on it before a friend of mine in Huntsville Alabama bought. I know for a fact it was indoors the past 3 years. Some of the bolts however are very slightly corroded and the front axle has rust around it as shown below. Is there anyway to clean this up without removing the wheel? It won't be difficult to take off and I am guessing I need to replace the bearings....
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Miles
2017 GU Sahara
Previously 2007 GU, 2014 Patrol, and 2016 GU
2017 GU Sahara
Previously 2007 GU, 2014 Patrol, and 2016 GU
- windmill
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Re: Rust
I've had good luck swabbing on Ospho with a Q-tip. It eliminates light rust and provides short term protection. Once cured overnight one can go over it with touch up paint or some sort of corrosion protectant like Fluid Film.
Barry
"Take care, sir," cried Sancho. "Those over there are not giants but windmills".
2007 Patrol 100k km and counting,
2018/20 M70
"Take care, sir," cried Sancho. "Those over there are not giants but windmills".
2007 Patrol 100k km and counting,
2018/20 M70
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Re: Rust
You are catching it early, no problem.
Other places to check are the sheet metal seams in your sidecar, especially the floor under the mats.
I treat them with a spray corrosion inhibitor, let it sit for a bit, then wipe excess with a coarse cloth.
There are several types available (amazon is a source) but this is what I use.
This stuff smells EXACTLY like ALOX cast bullet lubricant.
Alox, if memory serves, was originally used as a corrosion inhibitor in gear oils. It was found to be a good cast bullet lube when mixed with beeswax in the late 60's.
Other places to check are the sheet metal seams in your sidecar, especially the floor under the mats.
I treat them with a spray corrosion inhibitor, let it sit for a bit, then wipe excess with a coarse cloth.
There are several types available (amazon is a source) but this is what I use.
This stuff smells EXACTLY like ALOX cast bullet lubricant.
Alox, if memory serves, was originally used as a corrosion inhibitor in gear oils. It was found to be a good cast bullet lube when mixed with beeswax in the late 60's.
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2021 OD Ct, disguised as a Gearup
Sold in 20 minutes flat... -2015 Gearup Sportsman Adventure Camp Wandawega Edition 13,500 K
Gone but not forgotten- -2009 Patrol, Sold at 26000 klicks
Sold in 20 minutes flat... -2015 Gearup Sportsman Adventure Camp Wandawega Edition 13,500 K
Gone but not forgotten- -2009 Patrol, Sold at 26000 klicks
- Ransom
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Re: Rust
Agree. Depending on the location you might want to use a rust converter and primer product. Lots of them on Amazon.
Mark M, Hazelwood, Missouri
Current rides:
2016 Ural cT
2021 Honda CRF300L Rally
History:
2013 BMW R1200GS
2000 Kawasaki Super Sherpa 250
1995 BMW R1100RS
1983 BMW R80RT
1983 BMW R65 - the one I miss
1975 Suzuki TS185 - popcorn popper
Etc.
Current rides:
2016 Ural cT
2021 Honda CRF300L Rally
History:
2013 BMW R1200GS
2000 Kawasaki Super Sherpa 250
1995 BMW R1100RS
1983 BMW R80RT
1983 BMW R65 - the one I miss
1975 Suzuki TS185 - popcorn popper
Etc.
- Kilometers2
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Re: Rust
Thanks for the advice and recommendations. I was fortunate that Ural of NE applied undercoating to the entire sidecar tub. It is the gray wrap around at the base of the tub. A quick look makes me think they did the inside of each fender too.
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Miles
2017 GU Sahara
Previously 2007 GU, 2014 Patrol, and 2016 GU
2017 GU Sahara
Previously 2007 GU, 2014 Patrol, and 2016 GU
- aduthie
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Re: Rust
The undercoatings are applied at the factory as an option, for $600 MSRP.
Andrew Duthie / Nashville Motorcycle Repair / Ural and Vintage Sales & Repair
Re: Rust
Probably a good idea to pull the front axle and give it a good coat of anti-sieze. Mine and other's have rusted in place and would have been impossible to remove if I had a flat on the road. I was in the comfort of my garage and it was still a heckofa challenge even with a full array of breaker bars, various nut loosener concoctions and BF hammers. (and yes, I knew the thread was backwards)
Past afflictions include limey cars and motorbikes, R60/2, R65ls, 2012 Ural GU & a Citroen ID-19.
Nowadays a bunch of bicycles, 1987 K75s,
and a brand spanking new 2023 flat green Gear Up!
Nowadays a bunch of bicycles, 1987 K75s,
and a brand spanking new 2023 flat green Gear Up!
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Re: Rust
The undercoat is a good idea, check under the rubber mats anyway. It is a good place for moisture
to collect and not dry out. If you see rust anywhere, it is time to have a good look around to catch it early.
I had my 21 Ct undercoated and the interior of the tub coated for good measure.
to collect and not dry out. If you see rust anywhere, it is time to have a good look around to catch it early.
I had my 21 Ct undercoated and the interior of the tub coated for good measure.
2021 OD Ct, disguised as a Gearup
Sold in 20 minutes flat... -2015 Gearup Sportsman Adventure Camp Wandawega Edition 13,500 K
Gone but not forgotten- -2009 Patrol, Sold at 26000 klicks
Sold in 20 minutes flat... -2015 Gearup Sportsman Adventure Camp Wandawega Edition 13,500 K
Gone but not forgotten- -2009 Patrol, Sold at 26000 klicks
- Mr Wazzock
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Re: Rust
Plus, do check the outer seals in the hubs. Any sign of wear, a gap is formed letting water and dirt get in, then the bearings are at risk. Guess how I know! Your's shouldn't at 488 miles, but it is something to bear in mind for later – mine failed at around 12,000 miles.
Forv rust proofing, also spray ACF50 or whichever you prefer into the seam joints of the fenders – where the curved part is welded to the flat side parts (only 1 side part on sidecar) – hope that makes sense.
I put a generous amount of ACF50 on the tub and trunk floors before putting the mats back in. Seems to have worked so far.
HTH
Forv rust proofing, also spray ACF50 or whichever you prefer into the seam joints of the fenders – where the curved part is welded to the flat side parts (only 1 side part on sidecar) – hope that makes sense.
I put a generous amount of ACF50 on the tub and trunk floors before putting the mats back in. Seems to have worked so far.
HTH

Mike H
2016 Ural cT, in glorious terracotta
(aka Oranzhevaya Opasnost, "The Orange Peril")
2016 Ural cT, in glorious terracotta
(aka Oranzhevaya Opasnost, "The Orange Peril")
- Tomcatfixer
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Re: Rust
No. The switch to sealed bearings eliminated the need for bearing tensioners and dust covers.
- Chad
Gordonsville, Virginia, USA
Current rides:
2015 cT "Mobile Chernobyl", 2003 Retro Solo, 2001 Patrol "Little Red Bear", 1999 Tourist "The RPOC", 1994 Honda VFR750F, 2007 BMW K1200GT
Previous rides:
2007 Honda VTR1000 FireStorm (Super Hawk in U.S.)
2001 Buell Blast! - - - - - - - 2005 Yamaha FJR1300
1993 Honda CBR600F2 - 1984 Yamaha FJ1100
Two 1986 Yamaha FZX700S Fazers
1997 Deco Classic
1998 Tourist "The Heap"
Gordonsville, Virginia, USA
Current rides:
2015 cT "Mobile Chernobyl", 2003 Retro Solo, 2001 Patrol "Little Red Bear", 1999 Tourist "The RPOC", 1994 Honda VFR750F, 2007 BMW K1200GT
Previous rides:
2007 Honda VTR1000 FireStorm (Super Hawk in U.S.)
2001 Buell Blast! - - - - - - - 2005 Yamaha FJR1300
1993 Honda CBR600F2 - 1984 Yamaha FJ1100
Two 1986 Yamaha FZX700S Fazers
1997 Deco Classic
1998 Tourist "The Heap"
- windmill
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Re: Rust
The dust covers came back in 2020.Tomcatfixer wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:01 amNo. The switch to sealed bearings eliminated the need for bearing tensioners and dust covers.
Barry
"Take care, sir," cried Sancho. "Those over there are not giants but windmills".
2007 Patrol 100k km and counting,
2018/20 M70
"Take care, sir," cried Sancho. "Those over there are not giants but windmills".
2007 Patrol 100k km and counting,
2018/20 M70
- Tomcatfixer
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Re: Rust
The dust covers came back in 2020.
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- Chad
Gordonsville, Virginia, USA
Current rides:
2015 cT "Mobile Chernobyl", 2003 Retro Solo, 2001 Patrol "Little Red Bear", 1999 Tourist "The RPOC", 1994 Honda VFR750F, 2007 BMW K1200GT
Previous rides:
2007 Honda VTR1000 FireStorm (Super Hawk in U.S.)
2001 Buell Blast! - - - - - - - 2005 Yamaha FJR1300
1993 Honda CBR600F2 - 1984 Yamaha FJ1100
Two 1986 Yamaha FZX700S Fazers
1997 Deco Classic
1998 Tourist "The Heap"
Gordonsville, Virginia, USA
Current rides:
2015 cT "Mobile Chernobyl", 2003 Retro Solo, 2001 Patrol "Little Red Bear", 1999 Tourist "The RPOC", 1994 Honda VFR750F, 2007 BMW K1200GT
Previous rides:
2007 Honda VTR1000 FireStorm (Super Hawk in U.S.)
2001 Buell Blast! - - - - - - - 2005 Yamaha FJR1300
1993 Honda CBR600F2 - 1984 Yamaha FJ1100
Two 1986 Yamaha FZX700S Fazers
1997 Deco Classic
1998 Tourist "The Heap"