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Russian Tools

Post by kc0yef » Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:39 pm

I have almost a complete set with my 2005.
Does anyone actually use them?
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Re: Russian Tools

Post by makarov » Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:32 pm

The special tools, yes. Regular tools like a 13m wrench I use a better quality wrench.
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Re: Russian Tools

Post by sKiZo » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:30 am

Lotsa folk consider the kit invaluable for road repairs.

My kit is much simpler ...

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Re: Russian Tools

Post by rivers » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:28 am

Though genuine Yak cheese quality they actually do work sorta and most folks do add supplements to the roll. On the plus side with the IMZ open ends, the jaws will deform before you break any bolts. There are lots of previous tool threads on the forum and I would add a good set of combo wrenches.The worst tools in the roll are the allen wrenches. Toss and replace those asap.
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Re: Russian Tools

Post by eastbloc » Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:47 am

I disagree that the Russian tools are low quality. There's not a lot of attention to finish, but the wrenches and special tools are every bit as good as my Craftsman gear and I've never had one fail or deform in 20 years. They're also highly resistant to rust.

The screwdrivers and hex keys are another story. I tend to doubt those are actually Russian, they're likely cheap Chinese stuff.

Also, I'm talking about the old, honest-to-Brezhnev Soviet-era ones. I haven't had enough time with the toolkit on my '14 to say much about it.
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Re: Russian Tools

Post by RC20 » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:34 pm

I keep them as the holder for the other end of the nut or cap.

I have supplemented them with (now) my long pattern Armstrong combination wrenches. Other than hold nus or caps I am not an open end wrench kind of guy, combo wrench or sockets. I have added a 3/8 ratchets and Niko hex head metric billets due to the number of

Tight access in the rear tire change on the brake assembly needs a shorter wrench.

Longer term I may add in my shorter Craftsmen metric and take out the original tools. All of them fit nicely under the seat and a bit of more weight helps the right cornering.
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Re: Russian Tools

Post by INSUBORDINATOR » Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:37 pm

I keep the Russian tools in the tub-trunk for emergency - & use my good tools at home.
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Re: Russian Tools

Post by RC20 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 5:45 pm

sKiZo wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:30 am
Lotsa folk consider the kit invaluable for road repairs.

My kit is much simpler ...

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Once I got to a place that has a cell phone and fine a phone to call (we don't have one) then its another 4 hours?

Plus I work out of the tub at home.
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1 x CB700 SC ala Shaft Drive Nighthawk S (RC20 is the actual in house production Model)
1 x R80GS (ok to start with, learned to love it for what it was)
1 x CB450K

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Re: Russian Tools

Post by rougaroo » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:26 pm

Van and I were very surprised visiting Redmond last year to see that Sergei basically uses the Ural tools for everything. Sure he has some special tools like that industrial engine stand, but his everyday set is just the Ural tool kit augmented by some Sears-quality screwdrivers and pry bars. There's not a single Snap-On to be found!

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Re: Russian Tools

Post by RC20 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:48 pm

Segai has my admiration, I prefer a box end for most work if I can get to it and around it. I like my ratchets and sockets. He certainly is different as fixed locale mechanics tend to tool chests and specialist tools (most go way to far but....)

I am not a tool Nazi. I have a mix of Craftsman, Armstrong, and Proto. As I worked a variety of mechanical rooms I never developed a Tool Chest fixation like fixed shop mechanics tend to. Maximum flexibility.

I was given a Snap on Crescent wrench and 3/8 ratchets, both I like a lot.

I do have two Snap On Torque wrenches (dial type ) love em.

Mechanics are odd creatures. Mostly I hate Snap On Combo Wrenches Tools because they are too thin. Most are over priced and don't offer anything other than pretty chrome. I don't care for Craftsman combos a lot as they have raised areas and a lot of use rubs the hands wrong. Proto and Armstrong feel right, I still have some JC Penny wrench and sockets.

The Niko Billet Hex I like a lot.
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2 x CB750K (one a true Japan Model flown to Hawaii by a P3 Orion Sub Patrol Aircraft!)
1 x CB700 SC ala Shaft Drive Nighthawk S (RC20 is the actual in house production Model)
1 x R80GS (ok to start with, learned to love it for what it was)
1 x CB450K

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Re: Russian Tools

Post by RC20 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:47 pm

Back in the early 80s I was arm twisted into a tech trip to the Philippines (Clark Air Base for a credit union generator problems)

I had one day in the two weeks I was there off, got out to see the famous model builders (they made models of aircraft for the USAF and Navy personal per request)

They worked with Balsa wood and their aircraft lines were as perfect as a molded plastic model with far more luster in the paint and details.

The tools they were working with were salvaged broken hack saw blades and broken files. And they turned out perfect model aircraft that were works of art.

I found that incredibly humbling. Someone that is a truly great can work with anything. I counted myself beyond fortunate where I worked and lived. If I had been born there with my talents I would have starved.
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Formerly Owned: ( various rides on others)
Honda 90
2 x CB750K (one a true Japan Model flown to Hawaii by a P3 Orion Sub Patrol Aircraft!)
1 x CB700 SC ala Shaft Drive Nighthawk S (RC20 is the actual in house production Model)
1 x R80GS (ok to start with, learned to love it for what it was)
1 x CB450K

Current:
1 x 2019 cT Terracotta

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Re: Russian Tools

Post by GHGoodwin » Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:39 pm

Yeah - there's a lot of tools in my shop. I've either built or can fix darn near anything I have. The tools came along for the ride. That being said I'm with RC20. I'm no brand fan. If it works I'll keep it.
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Re: Russian Tools

Post by RC20 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:15 am

The mechanics where I used to work (Ground Vehicle and Aircraft) all had Snap On, Mac etc rollers and sneered at Craftsman.

Craftsman ratchets were not so good but the sockets perfectly worked fine as did the wrenches. One manger (former mechanic) was talking one day and I realized I could fill in with Craftsman for a lot of things. I bought two of their 100 some tool sets. Good coverage for US and Metric both wrenches and sockets unlike a lot of tool combos. One batch had a free adder set of 1 inch to 1.5 inch wrenches I took to work (not often but got into some Conveyor work and the Generator exhaust bolts tended big) . Sorry to see Sears go down (up here anyway). Good low cost high quality starter tools for someone starting out.

Mostly at work was US standard, I only occasionally needed Metric (Cumin's diesel). My cycles were metric of course so I kept the better sets of those at home though the sockets and the Craftsman at work. We wound up with a couple of Electronic Group Power Units that were mostly metric that blew the Capacitor banks every 4000+ hours - worked good for that.

At one time I took all my tools home for the weekends (we had 3 days off so it could be well worth it). Fill ins and bought a few extras and avoided that a lot. Then security got tight and it was a major hassles to get one tool home let alone all of them (I had them staked in 4 tool boxes and a hand dolly for transport)

I don't need much if anything tool wise now, just more space or someone to pass them on to but I have to sort it all out first (on the other hand I don't have to go to toxic work place anymore either, a good problem to have!)

I do like good ratchets but only bought one extended Max on and made do with the Craftsman and my JC Penny (half inch) - lost a good flex head Mac at work, sigh - never could convince myself to replace it, got a not so good Proto or Armstrong and made do, didn't need it that often.
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Formerly Owned: ( various rides on others)
Honda 90
2 x CB750K (one a true Japan Model flown to Hawaii by a P3 Orion Sub Patrol Aircraft!)
1 x CB700 SC ala Shaft Drive Nighthawk S (RC20 is the actual in house production Model)
1 x R80GS (ok to start with, learned to love it for what it was)
1 x CB450K

Current:
1 x 2019 cT Terracotta

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Re: Russian Tools

Post by kc0yef » Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:22 pm

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Re: Russian Tools

Post by windmill » Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:07 pm

rougaroo wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:26 pm
Van and I were very surprised visiting Redmond last year to see that Sergei basically uses the Ural tools for everything. Sure he has some special tools like that industrial engine stand, but his everyday set is just the Ural tool kit augmented by some Sears-quality screwdrivers and pry bars. There's not a single Snap-On to be found!

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I have also watched him set the idle and balance on both carb and EFI rigs just using a paperclip, screwdriver, and his ears. At one time he put some prototype pistons in my 07 Patrol for testing and did a tune up. Out of curiosity I checked the Idle and balance when I got home using my Harmonizer...... It was spot on. :bow:
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