About to dip a toe in the Russian pool..

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Re: About to dip a toe in the Russian pool..

Post by RC20 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:06 pm

Not us!

Like Mike H, the two lane AK roads are an issue as you really need to move at speed. While some areas open, others you can't pass on and pulling off is dangerous in some areas as they are really narrow, but the Speed is posted at 55 to 65.

Ergo, being able to run 65 can be important.

IN Washington State as Mike noted (60 in that case) the truck are supposedly speed limited so running with them could be preferably to a back road. I didn't do a lot but what I did I rolled along behind them. Right lane if a 4 lane highway.
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Re: About to dip a toe in the Russian pool..

Post by cpres » Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:13 pm

harryball wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:04 pm
Sent you a PM. Good info in this thread. Just remember, if you get 3 Ural riders together you'll get 6 opinions about the same thing.
And identical Urals sold the same year from the same dealer will all run different and look different.
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Re: About to dip a toe in the Russian pool..

Post by windmill » Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:56 pm

harryball wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:04 pm
Sent you a PM. Good info in this thread. Just remember, if you get 3 Ural riders together you'll get 6 opinions about the same thing.
They do spell it out very clearly in the owners manual. :deal:

Real men don't read manuals......... :lol:
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Re: About to dip a toe in the Russian pool..

Post by 1981turbota » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:01 pm

windmill wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:56 pm
harryball wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:04 pm
Sent you a PM. Good info in this thread. Just remember, if you get 3 Ural riders together you'll get 6 opinions about the same thing.
They do spell it out very clearly in the owners manual. :deal:

Real men don't read manuals......... :lol:
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Re: About to dip a toe in the Russian pool..

Post by Scouser » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:10 pm

Thanks everybody. I will be visiting Heindl Engineering within the next fortnight, and will hopefully take a test ride of a rig or two. I’ve been doing more research, manuals, cost of ownership, repairs, parts etc.

The rig I’m interested in, is based in Louisville. Which is a happy coincidence, as I’ll be around there in a few weeks, for the KKD event.

Let’s see what happens. And thanks for making me feel very welcome.

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Re: About to dip a toe in the Russian pool..

Post by wooden nickel » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:22 pm

KKD? Krispy Kreme Donuts?
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Re: About to dip a toe in the Russian pool..

Post by atlasheating » Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:37 am

I use my 2014 to ride on divided highways with a 60mph speed limit. No problem. I am not passing many other vehicles and I am able to maintain speed.
On that same highway when riding my Moto Guzzi (without any sidecar), I am trying hard to keep the speed down to 60, since the bike wants to go 70 and beyond. That bike would go 80mph all day without breaking a sweat.
The Ural does slow really well.

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Re: About to dip a toe in the Russian pool..

Post by harryball » Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:56 am

wooden nickel wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:22 pm
KKD? Krispy Kreme Donuts?
If Krispy Kreme held a bike rally, my wife would be all over that. She LOVES Krispy Kreme. Never get between her and a KK Donut, she will pull a knife on you. :o
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Re: About to dip a toe in the Russian pool..

Post by tx2sturgis » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:28 am

I can cruise effortlessly at 75 mph all day long on my Ural.

Oh, I should mention, its a Solo.


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Re: About to dip a toe in the Russian pool..

Post by Mr Wazzock » Sat Sep 07, 2019 4:07 pm

harryball wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:56 am
If Krispy Kreme held a bike rally, my wife would be all over that. She LOVES Krispy Kreme. Never get between her and a KK Donut, she will pull a knife on you. :o
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Re: About to dip a toe in the Russian pool..

Post by Mr Wazzock » Sat Sep 07, 2019 4:10 pm

tx2sturgis wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:28 am
I can cruise effortlessly at 75 mph all day long on my Ural.

Oh, I should mention, its a Solo.


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You will have higher gearing then. The sidecar outfits have low ratio FD. I don't like revving it that much ergo road speed is slower. :D
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Re: About to dip a toe in the Russian pool..

Post by tx2sturgis » Sat Sep 07, 2019 4:40 pm

Yep, taller gearing AND a lot less wind resistance and rolling mass, drag etc....in fact some 1WD sidecar rigs have been produced with the taller gearing...and one member here tried it on a Gear-Up (IIRC) and has found the taller gearing was not suitable for a 2WD sidecar rig.

So anyway, that is why I mentioned that what I have is the Solo...so it is then understood why it is faster.
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Re: About to dip a toe in the Russian pool..

Post by windmill » Sat Sep 07, 2019 5:07 pm

I totally agree.
When I rode the Prototype solo to California it would cruise along at 75 as easy as you please, even up long mountain grades. Without the sidecar, its a totally different experience.
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Re: About to dip a toe in the Russian pool..

Post by tx2sturgis » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:21 am

I kinda assume most Ural owners have not ridden the Solo, or any of the non-sidecar Urals. Assuming the taller gear ratio is what makes it faster is like saying a Chevy Camaro is faster than a Chevy 2500 Pickup with a slide-in camper because the Camaro's gearing is taller.

Its faster because it is not pulling around as much weight for the available horsepower. The taller gearing allows a higher top speed, of course, but it also has much quicker acceleration around town...stop light to stop light.

Of course the Ural Solo sT has no sidecar so it wont carry 10 bags of groceries or tackle snow covered roads either. I miss my sidecar Ural all the time. But the Solo is certainly enjoyable too.
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Re: About to dip a toe in the Russian pool..

Post by INSUBORDINATOR » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:08 pm

Scouser wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:12 am
Hello everyone.

Due to personal issues, I'm limited to Trikes and Sidecars. I already have a Suzuki vs800 with a homemade trike conversion. Then I had a GL1100 with a hitchhiker sidecar. That was a slow, heavy, underpowered rig. Sold it last year.

Urals seem to be different. I'm looking at buying a 2009 Red October, and have a few questions:

Insurance?. I suspect it will cost more, than a regular bike. Any ideas how much more?
Road trips?. How would this handle a trip from Northern Ohio to South Dakota? What would be key things to check before, during and after?

I have read, and fully appreciate that Urals need regular maintenance. That I can (hopefully) handle, with a good manual, how to's and YouTube.

Anyway, thanks for listening. Hope to be part of the crowd soon.

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