New to Ural and Sidecars

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Re: New to Ural and Sidecars

Post by Pterodactyl » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:15 am

Finally got it home. It is a very different experience to ride. Requires a great deal of focus as a new to sidecars rider, but it is a great deal of fun.

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Re: New to Ural and Sidecars

Post by S 854 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:20 am

Nice!!!

Maybe I can get over to see it in person this weekend...
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Re: New to Ural and Sidecars

Post by Pterodactyl » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:45 am

S 854 wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:20 am
Nice!!!

Maybe I can get over to see it in person this weekend...
That will be great. Rode it up to Great Divide and Marysville twice yesterday. Seems like a great road for learning; little traffic with several turns and elevation changes.
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Re: New to Ural and Sidecars

Post by hotflash44 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:28 am

beautiful Ural, glad your enjoying it.was thinking yesterday as i was riding how different it is from a so called regular bike. why i would like this thing i pondered. slow, clunky, harder to steer, seems all the gear ratios are fighting each other, 55 mph my preferd top speed,people behind me looking to pass as if im holding up traffic. thinking okay here comes a tight right hand turn slow down down shift if able to of course in the wrong gear, then try to speed up as fast as you can as not to pizz off the guy behind you. then it dawned on me that is exactly what i like about the Ural,im i deranged or what? :wink: :roll: :cheers:
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Re: New to Ural and Sidecars

Post by treeman1942 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:32 am

Yes! :boogie:
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Re: New to Ural and Sidecars

Post by Pterodactyl » Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:01 pm

So I guess the seat removal and installation process is some sort of cruel initiation ritual. Pretty soon I will receive in the mail the actual mounting hardware, that allows removing it with one hand... right.....? :roll: I am surprised that Ural has not fixed this with all the other upgrades they have done, or at least that there isn't an aftermarket solution. I have some ideas on how to make it better, if not good.
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Re: New to Ural and Sidecars

Post by Bendog02760 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:16 pm

Looking good, take it slow and enjoy!!! :cheers:
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Re: New to Ural and Sidecars

Post by hotflash44 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:01 pm

Pterodactyl wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:01 pm
So I guess the seat removal and installation process is some sort of cruel initiation ritual. Pretty soon I will receive in the mail the actual mounting hardware, that allows removing it with one hand... right.....? :roll: I am surprised that Ural has not fixed this with all the other upgrades they have done, or at least that there isn't an aftermarket solution. I have some ideas on how to make it better, if not good.
i thought the same thoughts as to why Ural doesn't fix this or that,and was soon advised not to forget how small the factory is, im happy and surprised that they have been able to upgrade what they have. i love my 2016 GU and don't have a need to go the 2019 route,but i will be watching and reading and hope that all goes well for Ural . :cheers:
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Re: New to Ural and Sidecars

Post by Lofty » Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:04 pm

Pterodactyl wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:01 pm
So I guess the seat removal and installation process is some sort of cruel initiation ritual. Pretty soon I will receive in the mail the actual mounting hardware, that allows removing it with one hand... right.....?

I am surprised that Ural has not fixed this with all the other upgrades they have done, or at least that there isn't an aftermarket solution.
We presume you mean the Enduro bench seat, which is standard on 2018 Gear Ups.

There is an aftermarket solution, of sorts: replace the rear bolts with stainless thumb screws. This reduces the tool requirement for seat removal to a single combination wrench for removal of the front locknut.

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Re: New to Ural and Sidecars

Post by hotflash44 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:07 pm

Pterodactyl wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:01 pm
So I guess the seat removal and installation process is some sort of cruel initiation ritual. Pretty soon I will receive in the mail the actual mounting hardware, that allows removing it with one hand... right.....? :roll: I am surprised that Ural has not fixed this with all the other upgrades they have done, or at least that there isn't an aftermarket solution. I have some ideas on how to make it better, if not good.
i thought the same thoughts as to why Ural doesn't fix this or that,and was soon advised not to forget how small the factory is, im happy and surprised that they have been able to upgrade what they have. i love my 2016 GU and don't have a need to go the 2019 route,but i will be watching and reading and hope that all goes well for Ural . :cheers: PS, my sick imagination sees a small room with gray paint pealing and a rusty desk and a old sign hanging by one nail that reads research and development dept,and a guy laying on the floor in a pool of vomit with a empty vodka bottle in his hand. :sarcasm: :lol: :lol:
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Re: New to Ural and Sidecars

Post by Mr Wazzock » Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:22 pm

Pterodactyl wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:15 am
Finally got it home. It is a very different experience to ride.
Isn't it just? :o My first thought was what the feck have I done...

Enduro seat, yeah, I've done mine a couple of times now, there is a knack to it. I've found I can insert a hand up between the rear fender and tire from the back while holding an Allen key and do the screws by feel, no need to jack up the suspension, but then I have slim hands and wrists. The front nut is a special kind of Chinese puzzle designed to test your patience. :D I can just about get a flat 17mm ring spanner on it and just about turn it. The tricky bit is taking it off then putting it back on with just two overstretched fingers.
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Re: New to Ural and Sidecars

Post by Mr Wazzock » Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:24 pm

PS, fab photo. :clap:
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Re: New to Ural and Sidecars

Post by Happytrails » Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:20 pm

Mr Wazzock wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:22 pm
Pterodactyl wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:15 am
Finally got it home. It is a very different experience to ride.
Isn't it just? :o My first thought was what the feck have I done...
Me too, I thought I had made a very expensive mistake. But then it turns to "why did I wait so long to do this?" :)
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Re: New to Ural and Sidecars

Post by RC20 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:53 pm

Back in the early 80s I got to ride a Norton with a side car (he had lost a leg in an aircraft crash in the Navy)

Yes it was different but it was intriguing as well. I am going to take it easy and work my way into it, stay on back roads as much as possible.
I like learning new equipment, never brilliant at it but I adjust to decent pretty quickly (I operated a wide range of equ9ipment when I was younger) .

The one that threw me was the R80 GS initially (actually was my wifes but she handed it off to me when she had to quit riding) . I felt I was missing something but could not figure it out. One part was failure to use the engine, no tach, but those funny marks on the Speedo were allowed gear limits. Hmm, shifting way too soon. Ahh, now better, less tractor and more cycle - it had a lot more rpm upside than I thought. And even with 100 lbs of gear it performed as good as no gear.

The other part was the suspension, As someone said, you never ever want to bog down a bike that heavy (done it twice on a 750 and the R80, damned near gutted myself getting out.

Well it turns out you could do 65 on the worst road in the world as long as it was packed hard. I passed a lady in Canada one time on bad road, she was one of those more typical male drives that got offended. She racks it up to more speed . Hmm, my brother taught me to loose them or exit fast, you never know what the hell they are going to do.

So I ramp it up to 60ish, she ramps up but she sure is starting to do some interesting twist and vertical stuff. Up to 65, she ramps it up and its getting kind of crazy back there. I am just as smooth drag strip. I am doing 70 at the end and just fine and she fades off, but she sure was getting wild back there.

Ran another 30 minute to loose her for sure and then back to 55. Dang, I was out there to enjoy the world not go fast. But that R80 GS sure was amazing on the rough stuff and I saw how you could win the Paris/Decar race with it.
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Re: New to Ural and Sidecars

Post by Pterodactyl » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:23 pm

Lofty wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:04 pm
Pterodactyl wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:01 pm
So I guess the seat removal and installation process is some sort of cruel initiation ritual. Pretty soon I will receive in the mail the actual mounting hardware, that allows removing it with one hand... right.....?

I am surprised that Ural has not fixed this with all the other upgrades they have done, or at least that there isn't an aftermarket solution.
We presume you mean the Enduro bench seat, which is standard on 2018 Gear Ups.

There is an aftermarket solution, of sorts: replace the rear bolts with stainless thumb screws. This reduces the tool requirement for seat removal to a single combination wrench for removal of the front locknut.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00 ... UTF8&psc=1
Thank you.
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2018 Ural Gear Up, 2017 R1200GSA
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