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Experience With Winch

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:27 pm
by keetmanaa
Anybody here have experience using the winch that is sold by Ural New England?

Re: Experience With Winch

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:55 pm
by rivers
Nope but have had pretty fair experience running oopsie...extraction gear. Key to any towing or retrieval gear/winch is the mounting system. From what I remember of UNE's video of their really expensive system is that it's bolted to the tub bumper and the stock bumperonly has the rear 2 bolts to the frame the front two bolts bolt to the tub sheet mental. Sure their vid showed the 'not-stuck" Ural being pulled along by their winch "on a mowed lawn" Whoopie...a decent dog/lg child can do that.. For extraction gear this old fart still lives with a Massdam rope puller till I can justify the costs and elec hassles of going electric but if/when I do I'll likely go with Kaliber Creations(sp?) winch mount sans expensive Warn winch substituting a Harbor Freight "Badlands" brand ATV winch. Nothing against UNE but IMHO their lash up is for $$$ folks that "accessorize for looks" not intended for real world use.

Re: Experience With Winch

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:34 pm
by chopfather
Same here, I'm considering the Kalaber Creations winch mount because it looks like it would be more secure and definitely more versatile with the ability to switch from front to rear for winching and also be a able to use with a trailer hitch or bike rack .

Re: Experience With Winch

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:01 am
by keetmanaa
rivers wrote:
Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:55 pm
substituting a Harbor Freight "Badlands" brand ATV winch.
I have the Harbor Freight Badlands 2500 on my 6 wheeler and so far it has done the job. In that case I had to cobble-up all the wiring and controls and thought the Ural kit at URAL NE might be cleaner, but I'd not be comfortable having it mounted to the tub. The Kalaber mount seems sturdy but I wonder if it interferes with access to the right side valves, and perhaps the 2-1 right side high exhaust I have.
Anyone here have the Kalaber set up?

Re: Experience With Winch

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:30 am
by Manscout
I have mine mounted to my sidecar bumper with 100 yds of aircraft cable. I have pulled my bike all the way up on the loading deck of my camper, which is pretty steep. I had no issues. In fact, when I got it to close to the other side, it was the winch and mount that started bending. In my opinion, that bumper is rock solid for me. In the past that was also my hook up spot for my masdam.
Now, a more even pull comes from the lower sidecar knuckle support area.

Re: Experience With Winch

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:58 pm
by Donbmw
I have the Kalaber mount on my Patrol. You do have to remove the mount to check the valve. It’s not that big of deal. I have quick release connector.

Re: Experience With Winch

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:32 pm
by ichbinbier
The Warn XT17 if you can find one on ebay or Kijiji. Light and portable but no longer being made.

Re: Experience With Winch

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:31 am
by Googledave
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One thing I’ve learned from rock crawling jeeps: never mount a winch to a body.. the winch needs to be mounted to the frame ALWAYS. eventually you will rip the sheet metal at the absolute worst possible time! And always use grade 8 or metric 10.9 or higher. That’s just basic winching 101. Also you don’t need a massive winch. In the rock crawler/wheeler world the lighter the better. You can achieve high loads with a snatch block.

Re: Experience With Winch

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 11:19 am
by gobium

Re: Experience With Winch

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 10:47 pm
by stagewex
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I've been moving this box around my garage for a few months now. It contains a Kaliber Winch Kit, haven't even opened it yet.
I bought/paid for it last March but there was some sort of steel issue that prevented them from shipping it until early June. I think I got it a few days before the Spring Jersey Devil Hunt.

I didn't bring my rig this year, rode monkey. But in retrospect I'm kinda glad I didn't have it installed. This was a wet & wild event and whether the winch was going to be in the forward or rear position, it would have been underwater a lot of the time. Even where Gobium/Van has his stashed... unless that is completely waterproof it'll be underwater and basically ruined. Remember that the Kaliber was designed in the south-west and a much different drier environment than a place like the Jersey Pine Barrens. Actually everywhere I rode either the Ural or 2- wheel Dual-Sport events it was a muddy wet Summer of off-roading. The Kaliber just isn't designed for the wet though it is light years ahead of the body mount kit. Agree... you have to have any winch attachment to the FRAME!

I've thought about storing the winch on the little rack on the hack fender with a quick-disconnect. But that leave the Kaliber mount by itself under the frame, pretty much like having a spear bolted there. I'm trying to think of some way to have an attachment made so the leading end is raised somehow.
I'm going to take a look at it later this week. I'll post some pictures for those that are curious.