2004 Troyka
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Re: 2004 Troyka
Fantastic!
BTW....did Marv (aka Siberman1) ever contact you about those used (and one new) 308s ?
BTW....did Marv (aka Siberman1) ever contact you about those used (and one new) 308s ?
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1985 K100RT
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1974 R90S----gone
2009 G650GS---outtahere
2002 1150 GSA with 2005 Ural tub
1985 K100RT
2014 Sage Green GU....off to a new home
1974 R90S----gone
2009 G650GS---outtahere
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Re: 2004 Troyka
Sincere Congratulations. Suspect your revving problem is carburetor related. because the revs build on its own, something could be adrift in the carburetor. check slide spring & slide integrity. One note of caution: Other than changing oils & lube, Focus ONLY on the reason for present running problem. I have known many new owners to start making indiscriminate adjustments & snarling things up worse. "Don't Fix What Is Not broken" are words to live by.
I'd also be willing to bet that with some of the latest auto finish polishes (available from wall mart) that your Troyka paint job will return to original glory. I know you'll have fun, Best Wishes, C.
I'd also be willing to bet that with some of the latest auto finish polishes (available from wall mart) that your Troyka paint job will return to original glory. I know you'll have fun, Best Wishes, C.
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Thanks, everyone, for the Congrats. Here's the first pic from the proud second owner.

I call it "Still Life: Hack with Monkey".

I call it "Still Life: Hack with Monkey".
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'04 Troyka (Riba)
'82 CM450C (Zenaida: gone but not forgotten)
'07 Sportster XL1200C (Talulah)
'04 Troyka (Riba)
'82 CM450C (Zenaida: gone but not forgotten)
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Re: 2004 Troyka
That guy....doesnt seem happy.
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Re: 2004 Troyka
ALRIGHT ! I think it looks good. Is that bird poop or a dent in the right front of sidecar nose ?
Keep it out of the rain. Have Fun.
Keep it out of the rain. Have Fun.
Current Motorcycles: Improved 2002 Ural Tourist.
"Be who you are & say what you feel. Those that matter won't mind, those that mind - don't matter."
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Re: 2004 Troyka
Dent, and a fresh one. It wasn't there the first time I saw it but was there when I went to pick it up. The rig was parked in a semi-public space. The PO's wife had indicated that somebody had been messing with the cover. I figure some local kids give it a good wallop. Doesn't look like anything is missing though.
As sorry as I am to say it, I'm going to sand out that spot, hit it with some primer and then some black rattle can. I have to get the motor working (and some new tires) before I can worry about the cosmetics.
As sorry as I am to say it, I'm going to sand out that spot, hit it with some primer and then some black rattle can. I have to get the motor working (and some new tires) before I can worry about the cosmetics.
Current Rides:
'07 Sportster XL1200C (Talulah)
'04 Troyka (Riba)
'82 CM450C (Zenaida: gone but not forgotten)
'07 Sportster XL1200C (Talulah)
'04 Troyka (Riba)
'82 CM450C (Zenaida: gone but not forgotten)
Re: 2004 Troyka
So, I'm trying to get some accurate information on my bike. I know from this website (http://www.crawfordsales.info/?page_id=54) that I should have a Denso alternator. Does that mean that I also have the update Herzog gears, or is that a separate purchase? Here's a pic of the alternator.


Current Rides:
'07 Sportster XL1200C (Talulah)
'04 Troyka (Riba)
'82 CM450C (Zenaida: gone but not forgotten)
'07 Sportster XL1200C (Talulah)
'04 Troyka (Riba)
'82 CM450C (Zenaida: gone but not forgotten)
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Re: 2004 Troyka
Herzog timing and transmission gears weren't std equip till 07 I think? My 06 still had the old Russian gears. Your 04 may have been owner upgraded to Herzog timing gears but you can't tell from the outside. Ya gotta look at the gears. Swapping timing gears is a fairly expensive swap that the PO would likely remember doing.
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Re: 2004 Troyka
Look on the left side of the engine for the engine number stamped in. Post it here, or search for "identifying year". If it is an 04 with those few km's it is really unlikely you have Herzogs. Way outside chance that some PO replaced the engine with an 07 or newer or installed the Herzogs, but -again - with those few km's, it's doubtful.
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2004 Troyka - work in progress
2004 Troyka - work in progress
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Re: 2004 Troyka
You have the Denso. It was standard issue in '04. As for the Herzog gears, I wouldn't worry about replacement until the old Russian ones wear out. The noises they make will let you know when it's time. (I'm talking about the timing gears). Till then, enjoy!
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Re: 2004 Troyka
My 02 was upgraded to Denso & has the Russian timing gears. Should be good for years to come.
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"Be who you are & say what you feel. Those that matter won't mind, those that mind - don't matter."
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Re: 2004 Troyka
Thanks for the replies, everyone. Now to the next order of business: getting it started. The PO removed the battery, but gave it to me with the bike. I've got it charged to 12.8 V. Now for the installation. Leave it to the Russians to make both main electrical straps white. They couldn't do something so obvious as mailing one red and one black. So, I'm guessing like most other bikes, the strap from the starter goes to positive (+). I haven't chased it all the way back yet but presumably the other lead goes to ground and hooks to negative (-).
Current Rides:
'07 Sportster XL1200C (Talulah)
'04 Troyka (Riba)
'82 CM450C (Zenaida: gone but not forgotten)
'07 Sportster XL1200C (Talulah)
'04 Troyka (Riba)
'82 CM450C (Zenaida: gone but not forgotten)
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Re: 2004 Troyka
A multimeter is "required" for Ural ownership. On the lowest resistance scale, put one probe on the engine block, the other probe on both battery terminals (one at a time). when you find the one that measures 2 ohms or less, you found your ground (neg). The color in the wiring in some of the older model Urals tends to fade sometimes..
Re: 2004 Troyka
I found my answer. Three leads on positive, one going to the starter; two leads coming from negative, one going to ground.
With luck, I'll have her cranking tonight.
[Edit: Only one lead on negative, which goes to ground. There's a copy of the wiring diagram in the .pdf version of the Owner's Manual. Battery type is YBL18-A, although PO's battery was an Interstate YTX12-BS.]
With luck, I'll have her cranking tonight.
[Edit: Only one lead on negative, which goes to ground. There's a copy of the wiring diagram in the .pdf version of the Owner's Manual. Battery type is YBL18-A, although PO's battery was an Interstate YTX12-BS.]
Current Rides:
'07 Sportster XL1200C (Talulah)
'04 Troyka (Riba)
'82 CM450C (Zenaida: gone but not forgotten)
'07 Sportster XL1200C (Talulah)
'04 Troyka (Riba)
'82 CM450C (Zenaida: gone but not forgotten)