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Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:15 pm
by INSUBORDINATOR
You can also just kick it through to see if you have compression & is not seized - assuming it's in neutral. wWth the low miles, it seems a very good buy at the price. Bikes kept outside frequently have corroded electrical connections, & are rumored to get rusted engine internals - BE SURE TO MENTION THAT.
Good Luck.

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:33 pm
by eastbloc
Low miles are not a boon to a Ural. There are many neglected low-mileage bikes out there that are just waiting to start squirting oil from every rotten seal and springing problems the previous owners didn't have the endurance to cause to emerge.

On a 10+ year old Ural, I'd be a lot happier seeing 3000km/year than 300km/year. But for the right price, it could be a fun and low risk project. The Denso alone is a $400+ cost avoidance from OEM spec.

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:50 am
by Roni
Thanks for all of the advice. I just placed the offer via text. Let's see whether the owner goes for it. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:10 pm
by INSUBORDINATOR
eastbloc wrote:Low miles are not a boon to a Ural. There are many neglected low-mileage bikes out there that are just waiting to start squirting oil from every rotten seal and springing problems the previous owners didn't have the endurance to cause to emerge.

On a 10+ year old Ural, I'd be a lot happier seeing 3000km/year than 300km/year. But for the right price, it could be a fun and low risk project. The Denso alone is a $400+ cost avoidance from OEM spec.
TAKE HEART ! Having bought a low mile 2002 @2600 miles, I realized it was a gamble. the PO had been using it & had all the good upgrades done. He gave up when a valve guide cooked. I've done all the work myself, it is even nearly oil tight. It still has a blush of new about it, & I'm very happy with my outcome. Since I couldn't afford newer, & prefer the earlier equipment it has been a "good fit" for me.

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 3:05 pm
by prahaben
How much is the seller going to give you to repaint all the custom painted red parts.....

nice looking bike otherwise.

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 4:05 pm
by Roni
At some point, the entire thing is going to need repainting. First priority, though, is to get it running, street legal and then get the monkeyshine on.

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 8:46 am
by Roni
Still no answer to my offer, not even a counter-offer. Bummer.

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:15 pm
by INSUBORDINATOR
I think I know why you aren't hearing from him. Using the evidence I've seen studying the photos. A straight clean used sidecar can bring $2K - $3K by itself. A clean (not running) Parts bike can bring $1100. easily. The Urals owner is probably a competent mechanic IF that is his racing Viper on the trailer. The Custom stuff he's done looks well executed & was Expensive. The red rims appear powder coated & were unlaced to do it. They don't really bother me & shouldn't rust. The paint for the most part will polish out like new. Ask about the cocked headlight & look carefully at the fork alignment in case there was an impact. (between you & me) the gathering revs problem is probably an easy fix. I THINK IT LOOKS LIKE A PRETTY NICE SOLID HONEST BIKE.
Here is my experience with my distressed Ural Buys: 6 years ago I bought a clean 1994 Parts Ural for $1100., & a clean sidecar for it for $2k. After refurbishing it, & enjoying it for some years, I eventually auctioned it on Ebay - it brought $5k. Last year I jumped on my 02 tourist for $3200. with the left jug in a box in the sidecar, it also had under 3000 miles, a Denso alternator, good fuel tap upgrades. It is fixed now & a very nice bike - much nicer than the old 650cc kick start model that sold for $5k.
I am pretty sure the Troyka you're looking at Blue books around $5k in 100% condition. I think if you should make an appointment to speak with the owner IN PERSON - EYE TO EYE, with $4500. spread out in different pockets. You may be able to work something out, possibly buying it for $3500-$4K. If you change your mind I think you can get your money back, but I'm certain your offer was to low & NOT IN PERSON. In the spring prices go up.
Best of luck to you, Craig

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:21 pm
by Roni
I've been out twice to see it and was going to pick it up today. We arrived at an agreeable price: a bit more than I wanted to pay and a bit less than he wanted to get. I guess that's what good compromises are made of.

I rented a U-Haul 6 x 12 trailer with a ramp. Stupid opening and ramp on the back of the trailer is only 5'. The bike will go up the ramp and would certainly fit in the bed of the trailer, but is about 6" too wide to fit through the 5' opening at the back. Now, I'm looking at paying a hauler, but that's more than I really want to pay.

There's a rental place around the corner that rents those open trailers that you would use to haul landscaping equipment. They're advertising a 6' wide model and the pics show no "lip" at the back. Unfortunately, the rental place is already closed for the day and isn't open on Sunday.

Sigh. Hopefully I'll have a Ural in my driveway next weekend.

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:11 pm
by INSUBORDINATOR
6' x 8' Landscape trailer will work great. Take a couple of 2"x10" x 8' boards in case you need to adjust the ramp or put under wheels. Let us know all about it when you get it.
Good Luck.

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:08 pm
by eastbloc
Worst case scenario sidecar comes off with four bolts and can be stood up sideways inside the Uhaul trailer. Been there done that.

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:52 pm
by Roni
Wahoo! There is now a 2004 Troyka sitting in my driveway! I found a hauler for a reasonable price, paid the PO the agreed price and now the rig is just outside waiting for me to start wrenching on her.

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:13 am
by Steve7959
:clap: :cheers: :clap:

Hopefully all of those running niggles will be just minor bits of sorting

I bought a 2004 Dalesman (Gear Up) last year with only 1,700km on the clock. Cleaned out the carbs, changed all of the fluids and she's been a good 'un.

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 8:16 am
by Kthulu
Woohoo! Congratulations! I hope you get all the little gremlins worked out without too many headaches.

Re: 2004 Troyka

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:05 am
by Firemedic30532
We need some pics,