Choosing routes for Urals

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Re: Choosing routes for Urals

Post by septantrionalis » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:38 pm

When I first got my Ural, I tried to avoid Interstates. I always tried to go from point A to point B without using Interstates. Man, it was more trouble than it was worth, here in Denver CO, so I just said screw it and started taking the Interstate. I pretty much just stay in the right lane the entire time.
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Re: Choosing routes for Urals

Post by grinmaul » Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:17 pm

Any of my ride routes in Ontario almost all have an alt 80 kph B road near the 100kph A road, but unfortunately every one expects you to maintain 110kph on the B roads:)

Anything above 95 makes the right side pull unbearable so i am quite happy to stick to 85 or lower.
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Re: Choosing routes for Urals

Post by GHGoodwin » Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:23 pm

Get a road map. Plan your route. Take your time and enjoy America. Can't see fudge from a superslab. Short hops on the freeway are fine, and sometimes necessary, but I avoid them if possible. I don't like being the darn near slowest thing out there.
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Re: Choosing routes for Urals

Post by Mr Wazzock » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:22 pm

Lofty wrote:
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On a mildly humorous note, an early lesson in my Ural ownership was that the same twisting roads that I glided through on any [single track] motorcycle was now one hell of a workout when trying to tiller a sidecar through the same snug curves. So, I do still occasionally choose routes for the sidecar that I'd ignore when piloting the Suzuki.
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Pretty much what everyone else says, prefer the minor roads avoiding main roads. Sometimes not possible and then motorway is really only practical answer, where alternatives are just too congested and complicated. However if I'm towing I mustn't exceed 60 mph on a dual carriageway or motorway so that answers that. :D

Otherwise I agree 65 is my comfort barrier.
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Re: Choosing routes for Urals

Post by sagerat » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:23 pm

I generally avoid the interstates, but when I have to slab, I keep to the righthand, aka outside, lane. My ‘04 Tourist would do 60-65mph for a while if it had to, same with the ‘12 Gobi.
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Re: Choosing routes for Urals

Post by cdscoot » Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:27 pm

I never plan a route using any interstates. I never reserve hotels either. Limiting yourself will cause you to go by things that you wish you would have stopped for. Stop and enjoy the trip. That's the way I travel.
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Re: Choosing routes for Urals

Post by stagewex » Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:41 pm

With the Ural I take the highway when I have to. But that's the same with any of the 2-wheelers as well. I-95 going South or North pretty much sucks on any motorcycle (does in a car too) but sometimes you have to.
Nothing specific to a Ural preventing or making me avoid a highway. Just where I'm going to get the most enjoyment from riding.
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Re: Choosing routes for Urals

Post by gobium » Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:00 am

When I did x county few years back on my 11 gobi, I started out using back roads going though town, lot of stops, go and shiftings.
I told myself , I m not going to this for 8000 miles.
I got the interstates, 55 mph, nobody ran me over, few times I did short burst at 65mph to pass a low vehicle.
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Re: Choosing routes for Urals

Post by RC20 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:37 pm

2019 has no limits. Its just what works.

Haines AK to Anchorage as I was talking to the son I inherited (he insists I am a dad, but he has not mowed my lawn so until he does....) its not a limited choice, its one choice if you are lucky!

Good news for AK? They are ALL good choices.

Stateside, I took what got the mission done. Freeways out East of the Cascades are pretty spectacular. Everett WA to Bellingham the parallel state highway was all traffic lights.
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Re: Choosing routes for Urals

Post by phughes » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:14 pm

I generally try to stay on back roads, or two lane highways, but I do ride it on the main route through Pittsburgh, which is an interstate, and have had it on the PA turnpike as well, though I would only go from one exit to the next one, about 15-20 miles. On trips I have hit interstates for short runs, when it seems to be the better option. I generally stay at 55-60 though. Of course after getting GPS, I now know that my cruising speed of 55-65, was really 60-65 mph. I have not had issues on the larger highways and interstates, as long as I stay to the right and don't do anything stupid.

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Re: Choosing routes for Urals

Post by Rich Maund » Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:30 pm

The 15 years I spent traveling on these bikes I would chose the old "blue line" hiways with 45 to 55 speed limits as my primary routes. I there to enjoy the journey vice do it fast. But that said, I also always made sure the machine was well broken in before a trip and well serviced! No problem doing the occasional bit of freeway travel at 60 mph. For some years we'd even put the travel trailer behind the rig and travel all day at 55 or even 60 on a downhill. Listen to the bike constantly. It'll tell you if it is in distress. I had a Ural 650 solo and before we put the sidecar on it later, it would happily do 70 all day on the interstate running solo gearing with 19" wheels. One year I rode mine and Sid Pollard rode his matching solo all the way to Asheville for FART. 440 miles each way! Our bikes were 7 serial numbers off from each other. We figured they could see each other in 1995 on the assembly line!
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Re: Choosing routes for Urals

Post by louisg » Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:30 pm

Thanks for all the responses!

Yup, I'm definitely on the same page as you guys. I'm not in a hurry to get anywhere, and don't expect to get anywhere in a hurry on the Ural. I bought it to enjoy the ride.
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At some point I would like to get a GPS and learn how to export the Google map files to Garmin or whatever. I've experimented with the Garmin desktop mapping app but I don't like the interface and features very much.
I almost always used Google maps or Waze with my phone and a RAM mount, but last year I finally broke down and got the Garmin Zumo XT($$$s) because I was doing fireroads on my KTM and Maps / Waze was pretty useless. I had looked at previous Garmin motorcycle GPSes, and they weren't worth the money. This model has a lot more useful functionality including terrain maps. But, yeah the Garmin app is disappointing. I did download someone else's map data for a fireroad, and I was able to import it into Garmin and the Zumo and it worked fine. It does irritate me that Google won't route our waypoints. The Garmin software will (if you set waypoints, Garmin will route between each of them). Maybe we can set waypoints with Google and let Garmin do the routing? I'll try that; if it works, I'll post the results.

I think I will buy another mount for the Zumo so I can use it on the Ural in case I get a wild hair and want to go offroad, but honestly with the streets, Waze is the best choice IMO since it's free and gives up to date road info.

If it helps anyone else, I've used this for car trips in the past. Will eventually try it for a motorcycle trip. It's really good at helping find interesting stuff along the route.

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Re: Choosing routes for Urals

Post by Robert Whitten » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:29 am

My 2¢ & I know a lot want agree.
I've got a 04 Troyka. I have no problem running 60-65 for several mile stretches. I run 60 a lot. I've been up to 75 on several occasions but not long stretches. My thinking is I'm running @ what's comfortable to me & take my time. Occasionally higher speeds is no worse than dragging one through mud & muck where the air flow is almost non existent on the engine & heats it way above normal. If I have to ride with kid gloves on then I don't want it. I do my regular scheduled maintenance on schedule plus. They are not as delicate as most owners think.
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Re: Choosing routes for Urals

Post by mattzahr » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:19 pm

Unfortunately, just going to work or running errands in the city requires me to travel on the Interstate highway. It requires a 15 - 20 mile or so jaunt, but just taking it slow (55-60) doesn't seem to cause issue with other drivers.
If I were to take a 2 lane bridge over the Missouri River would require a 25-30 mile detour - not fun going to work in the dark where deer are prevalent. The ride home, however is a blast!
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Re: Choosing routes for Urals

Post by jeffsaline » Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:03 pm

One of my go to maps for choosing routes for KLR or Ural is a DeLorme Atlas & Gazetteer for the state I'm riding in. They use to cost about $20 per state but I find them worth the price. Many of the maps are old so some roads are no longer available but they do show good detail and interesting information.

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