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New link for yellow manual?

Post by Rallyguy » Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:58 pm

Old link to sidecar.com not working for me

Is this same as the manual from Ural: How to ride Ural.pdf?

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Re: New link for yellow manual?

Post by rivers » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:54 pm

The Ural manual is NOT the yellow book. The yellow book is a non-factory endorsed actual printed manual/book called "Driving a Sidecar Outfit" by David Hough. 2nd ed. 2006. Not saying the freebee pdf files are bad, just IMHO the yellow book is much better. Rumor has it that's it's out of print? If still avail prices varied by source. Cheapest used to be from Whitehorse Press.
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Re: New link for yellow manual?

Post by Rallyguy » Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:56 pm

Whitehorse press is no longer in business

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Re: New link for yellow manual?

Post by RC20 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:49 pm

This guy has a lot better take on it than the Yellow Manual. Some very practical aspects. There is a lot to go though but its worth it I think. Flying the Chair was one I was interested in, he turned it from a challenge and concern to, its normal and how to deal with it (or that is my take) -

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Re: New link for yellow manual?

Post by Camel Jockey » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:15 am

On a related note, after owning a GU for 6 months and logging 6,000 miles, a sidecar training course became available locally. Being a big fan of ongoing training (my hobbies have included flying, technical and cave diving, climbing,etc.) I took advantage of it.

There’s no comparison between reading and having some real-time coaching. I learned to drift the rig through corners and lift the sidecar comfortably. (Being a chicken, I didn’t actually get it to the balance point.)

I highly encourage taking a class if you have the opportunity.
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Re: New link for yellow manual?

Post by codemonkey001 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:28 am

rivers wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:54 pm
The Ural manual is NOT the yellow book. The yellow book is a non-factory endorsed actual printed manual/book called "Driving a Sidecar Outfit" by David Hough. 2nd ed. 2006. Not saying the freebee pdf files are bad, just IMHO the yellow book is much better. Rumor has it that's it's out of print? If still avail prices varied by source. Cheapest used to be from Whitehorse Press.
Whitehorse press shut down, but their stock was bought by QuartoKnows.com. They don't have it. It's $90 used on Amazon, but dmcsidecars.com has it for $34.95. http://www.dmcsidecars.com/yellow-book/ . Failing that, don't know if he still uses it, but the author's personal email address was pmdave@msn.com . He may have a few copies in the basement or garage.
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Re: New link for yellow manual?

Post by Happytrails » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:22 pm

For whats its worth i think DMC sidecars was supposed to be starting new courses for sidecar rigs.
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Re: New link for yellow manual?

Post by Snakeoil » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:45 pm

Makes one wonder who had the copy rights to the Yellow Book and would it be possible for someone to scan it and make it available for free now that it is out of print? I would not endorse stealing someone's work and selling it. But if it is no longer published, providing for free would only hurt the author if he chose to have it published again or sell digitized version. If that became the case, removing the free copy would be a simple exercise.
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Re: New link for yellow manual?

Post by codemonkey001 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:37 pm

BTW, If you're looking for the old sidecar.com links, you've gotta love the Wayback Machine. It's got archived copies of the page and the PDFs going back years. http://web.archive.org/web/201709050550 ... links3.asp
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Re: New link for yellow manual?

Post by BriSco » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:10 pm

I know this not the for sale section, I have one I'll sell, but if any one wants a copy of the Yellow manual, PM me.
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Re: New link for yellow manual?

Post by RC20 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 4:53 pm

There’s no comparison between reading and having some real-time coaching. I learned to drift the rig through corners and lift the sidecar comfortably. (Being a chicken, I didn’t actually get it to the balance point.)
I don't think that has anything to do with being Chicken.

As you are into the depth of uncontrollable, its a place not to go.

The lift is normal, balance point and control reversed is not.
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Re: New link for yellow manual?

Post by Rallyguy » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:59 pm

Ural dealer near Toronto, Canada- Old Vintage Cranks sells it for $50.

I bought it and went through
The exercises.

As a flight and previous rally driving Instructor, i would say this is a must have for any newbie hack owner!!!

Practicing emergency situations is critical, so that if it ever happens in real life, you've seen it before and don't go into panic mode.

$50 could save your life!!!

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Re: New link for yellow manual?

Post by BriSco » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:18 am

I listed mine in the Black Market. DMC has them for $34.95 + $11.50 shipping....
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Re: New link for yellow manual?

Post by santareg » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:40 am

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Re: New link for yellow manual?

Post by RC20 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 1:41 pm

There’s no comparison between reading and having some real-time coaching.
While I agree my purchase is going to be long distance and I have a trip to make and on a budget.

So I have to make do with what I can glean. I like the BMW guy as it was down to earth and practical.

I have had a lifetime of running equipment, from small boats to 150 ft and onwards up to R-35 Euk and Cat wagons.

With the cycle background as well, I don't expect to be Mario Andretti, but I am confident I can safely operate the Ural with the reading I have done.

I never was a wonder equipment operate, just competent and as long as I can be that on the Ural I am good.

If I get the chance to do some training I will certainly take it.
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Honda 90
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1 x CB700 SC (RC20 is the actual in house production Model)
1 x R80GS (ok to start with, learned to love it for what it was)
1 x CB450K

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