Ural Electric Tilt

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Ural Electric Tilt

Post by Maineiac » Sat Dec 14, 2019 1:49 am

So you wanna add electric tilt to your Ural sidecar? Here you go.

https://youtu.be/Ep_YivOAQ1Q

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Re: Ural Electric Tilt

Post by Lmo » Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:17 am

Essentially a clone of the DMC system (which works really well).
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Re: Ural Electric Tilt

Post by Maineiac » Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:53 am

I’d like to think I drew more influence from CSM than DMC, myself! I didn’t like DMC’s design of their early Ural retrofit tilt systems, so I went with something different.
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Re: Ural Electric Tilt

Post by eastbloc » Sat Dec 14, 2019 9:41 am

Maineiac wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:53 am
I’d like to think I drew more influence from CSM than DMC, myself! I didn’t like DMC’s design of their early Ural retrofit tilt systems, so I went with something different.

+1 on this. The early DMC system suspended the entire weight of the right side of the chair on a single welded stud. It was downright dangerous! Mine failed hundreds of miles from home in a nearly catastrophic way:
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Claude completely redesigned it for me. You can see the difference between DMC and CSM engineering.
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Re: Ural Electric Tilt

Post by Maineiac » Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:38 pm

@eastbloc that’s truly frightening. I designed my bell crank to be double shear for that very fear. CSM uses single shear strut towers for their bell cranks, with billet bell crank arms. They appear robust.
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Re: Ural Electric Tilt

Post by disposable » Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:22 pm

what is the purpose of the tilting?
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Re: Ural Electric Tilt

Post by eastbloc » Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:05 pm

It lets you adjust the lean out on the fly so the rig tracks straight regardless of the load on the bike or in the sidecar.

Having had it for a number of years and many miles, I would never bother with it again. The electric tilt adjusters invariably failed and I didn’t really miss them when they did.
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Re: Ural Electric Tilt

Post by Maineiac » Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:17 am

eastbloc wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:05 pm
It lets you adjust the lean out on the fly so the rig tracks straight regardless of the load on the bike or in the sidecar.

Having had it for a number of years and many miles, I would never bother with it again. The electric tilt adjusters invariably failed and I didn’t really miss them when they did.
When I built this rig, I was unsure what I wanted, as my only other sidecar experience was a stock Ural car. I found that there were three camps of thought; those who ride without any add ones, those who use tilt adjusters, and those with sway bars. I incorporated both into my new rig, not knowing which i would prefer.I put a few thousand miles on the new rig this summer, and I can say I only used the trim adjuster on one occasion. On the other hand, I love the sway bar, and may build one for my stock Ural car.
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Re: Ural Electric Tilt

Post by eastbloc » Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:39 am

That was exactly my train of thought when I built my GS outfit too, and just where I ended up.

Let's see some pics of your rig! Here is the last picture of my GS-Ural before it went out to Claude in 2015 for a new chassis where it met an untimely demise. I still miss it :cry:
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Re: Ural Electric Tilt

Post by Wildhorse Cafe » Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:41 pm

I don't know if I get this? Are we trying to make a Ural dump truck? :puzzled: :puzzled: :puzzled:
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Re: Ural Electric Tilt

Post by Maineiac » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:24 pm

Wildhorse Cafe wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 1:41 pm
I don't know if I get this? Are we trying to make a Ural dump truck? :puzzled: :puzzled: :puzzled:
Well, it already handles like one 😂🤣😭
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Re: Ural Electric Tilt

Post by Maineiac » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:33 pm

eastbloc wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:39 am
That was exactly my train of thought when I built my GS outfit too, and just where I ended up.

Let's see some pics of your rig! Here is the last picture of my GS-Ural before it went out to Claude in 2015 for a new chassis where it met an untimely demise. I still miss it :cry:

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Re: Ural Electric Tilt

Post by Lmo » Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:10 pm

Hope you didn't find my comment too critical; it wasn't intended to be.

Your solution certainly shows a lot more foresight than what we came up with for the Terraplane back in the 80s. We only compensated for "lean" with a glorified turnbuckle; and, at the expense on dispensing with the '4th' mounting point.
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Re: Ural Electric Tilt

Post by Marine Corps Codu » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:06 pm

disposable wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:22 pm
what is the purpose of the tilting?
Also on steeply "domed" roads (Alaska dirt and gravel roads instantly come to mind) one can adjust on the fly and it makes steering soooooo much better
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Re: Ural Electric Tilt

Post by sixbennetts » Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:10 pm

I'm reconditioning parts from a Champion Daytona 2+2 sidecar for the goldwing project right now.

How do I bench-test this thing?
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