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Re: Adventure tablet?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:13 pm
by bratmanxj
snowymonkey wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:07 am
look at the Microsoft Surface Pro.

I am a (reluctant) Apple guy....... but I used one of these for a while at work (at my Ambulance job, not the Fire Dept). It is the best thing I’ve seen that bridges the gap between a tablet and a computer. It can be used as both. The keyboard is magnetic and doubles as a protective case. They work well. You can get them in WiFi only or in full cellular form. They are a bit more pricey than the tablets you are looking at.... but this is a case of “you get what you pay for”. I’m not saying anything bad about the Samsung, or other tablets for that matter. It just that a normal tablet will never do everything you want (without some very tech savvy work arounds, anything is possible with enough nerd knowledge (I are a nerd)). I think you would end up being frustrated with a normal tablet. The Surface pro just plain works. When everything else was messed up tech wise at work, that thing never failed.
Agree with the Microsoft Surface Pro. I'm an engineer and use to a keyboard and mouse for almost ALL of my computer work and while I can fumble with mobile IOS & Android products and the Surface products are the only things that come close to replacing my work laptop. Our field crews use them all the time to send field data back to the office and the integration into the rest of our office "system" is seamless vs a mobile platform.

Re: Adventure tablet?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:07 pm
by Wildhorse Cafe
A tablet with a cellular data modem would be ideal with unlimited data. My old iPad is not being supported anymore which po'd me to no extent. I will be getting an android tablet to replace it. Come on Black Friday!

Re: Adventure tablet?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:27 pm
by sixbennetts
Well, he got us this:

Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.1 32GB Android P Wifi Black - SM-T510NZKWXAR - $149

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Samsung-Galax ... /440177875

It's wifi only, but he taught me how to tether it via Bluetooth to our phones for use on cellular. (I guess tethering via bt uses far less power than using your phone as a wifi hotspot. Good to know).

This will be really handy when we're out in the boonies, providing we have cell service for the phones, of course. I'll still download nav maps and topos before we go, on wifi, but having 3 or 4G in the field without having to add another line to the cell bill is right up our alley.

We just realized also that we don't hardly ever even use the pc for much at all anymore besides printing out the occasional document. We do most everything on our phones.

We'll play with it for a while before buying a keyboard case & optical mouse, and when this old hp printer sharts the sheets, we'll consider a wifi printer.

Maybe we'll even get rid of the landline soon. Scammers are the only ones using it! :lol:

Re: Adventure tablet?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:56 pm
by eastbloc
Well, that's certainly inexpensive, but at $249 the current-gen iPad 10.2" is a much better buy. It's faster, has a better screen, more memory, and the dock connector is compatible with keyboard covers and you can take notes and sketch on it using the excellent Apple Pencil.

Samsung only guarantees two years of software updates for their devices - talk about planned obsolescence! Apple support for the latest iOS still goes back as far as the iPad Air 2, which was released in 2014.

Android tablets are a fading market segment, Apple has pretty much demolished them in terms of functionality, security, longevity and overall value.

Re: Adventure tablet?

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:15 am
by eastbloc

Re: Adventure tablet?

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:03 pm
by Wildhorse Cafe
My iPad with iOS 9.3.6 works fine but applications are dying one by one and new apps are hard to find. And the reputation Apple has for slowing things down when they want you to buy new doesn't help.

Re: Adventure tablet?

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:16 pm
by eastbloc
Wildhorse Cafe wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:03 pm
My iPad with iOS 9.3.6 works fine but applications are dying one by one and new apps are hard to find. And the reputation Apple has for slowing things down when they want you to buy new doesn't help.
How old is that iPad with iOS 9.3.6 though? It's gotta be at least seven years old! The NEWEST iPad that can't go past that version of iOS is the 3rd generation iPad released in 2012.

https://everyi.com/by-capability/maximu ... -ipad.html

Apple doesn't "slow things down" when they want you to buy new, apps just get more demanding as they are tailored for the majority of devices.

iPads generally are good for about 4-5 years. The picture is typically worse for Android tablets because they stop getting security and OS updates after less than two years on average. So you pay a little more for an iPad but you get far more use out of it, as evidenced by your seven year old model still working.

Though as a cyber security professional I have to say, you're really taking your chances running an obsolete operating system that doesn't have security patches. I hope you don't use that thing on the internet :)

Re: Adventure tablet?

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:21 pm
by sixbennetts
Well, one son has an iPhone, and another an iPad, and I can't stand either one, (the apple crap, not the sons! :lol:)

Nope, I'm tickled that, A-It's android like all our phones, and B-it's only $150.

Now that I know I can tether via Bluetooth for 4G, it will be a perfect addition to camp life on the Ural, as well as the soon-to-arrive Goldwing.

Adding a $27 case with great reviews from Amazon.
SupCase Unicorn Beetle Pro Series Designed for Galaxy Tab A 10.1 (2019 Release), Full-Body Rugged Heavy Duty Protective Case with Built-in Screen Protector for Galaxy Tab A 10.1 Inch 2019 (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T13FT6H/re ... 4Db29E36PK

I'll be adding a small cloth pocket to the left inside wall of the sidecar to slip it into for when she's not holding it in her hands. I figure I can run a charge cable up through the bottom of the pocket/pouch. Pull the cable out-plug the tablet in-slide it back down into the pocket-hold it firmly against the sidecar upholstery with her hip. Something similar to a cloth document pouch, maybe splash proof, with a snap down cover.

Something like this:

Universal iPad Waterproof Case, AICase Dry Bag Pouch for iPad Pro 10.5, New iPad 9.7 2017/2018, iPad Pro 9.7, iPad Air/Air 2, Tablets up to 11.5 Inch (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07538HVRG/re ... 4DbM52MR86

We have a cheap little battery operated AM/FM/Weather radio we take with us for white noise at camp. I'd love to find a way to get that from this tablet, but I doubt it has the capability. I know I can stream from most local stations online, but the simplicity of the battery radio will be hard to beat.

I'm tickled it has GPS! I love my topos & satellite views when exploring the Adirondacks. Our *secret is finding old maps from ages ago and finding the old mills, logging camps, abandoned towns, etc. Then, using a good photo editor, overlaying it over current maps for finding & exploring those places.

There's so much real history waiting in the woods, just waiting to be re-found. This adventure tablet will help us do that.
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Re: Adventure tablet?

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:44 pm
by sixbennetts
Let the fun begin!
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Re: Adventure tablet?

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:04 pm
by Wildhorse Cafe
Ordered my Samsung Galaxy 6S tab Cyber Monday. Santa has been berry berry good to me.

Re: Adventure tablet?

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 2:10 pm
by 737AV8OR
sixbennetts wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:21 pm
Well, one son has an iPhone, and another an iPad, and I can't stand either one, (the apple crap, not the sons! :lol:)

Nope, I'm tickled that, A-It's android like all our phones, and B-it's only $150.

Now that I know I can tether via Bluetooth for 4G, it will be a perfect addition to camp life on the Ural, as well as the soon-to-arrive Goldwing.

Adding a $27 case with great reviews from Amazon.
SupCase Unicorn Beetle Pro Series Designed for Galaxy Tab A 10.1 (2019 Release), Full-Body Rugged Heavy Duty Protective Case with Built-in Screen Protector for Galaxy Tab A 10.1 Inch 2019 (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T13FT6H/re ... 4Db29E36PK

I'll be adding a small cloth pocket to the left inside wall of the sidecar to slip it into for when she's not holding it in her hands. I figure I can run a charge cable up through the bottom of the pocket/pouch. Pull the cable out-plug the tablet in-slide it back down into the pocket-hold it firmly against the sidecar upholstery with her hip. Something similar to a cloth document pouch, maybe splash proof, with a snap down cover.

Something like this:

Universal iPad Waterproof Case, AICase Dry Bag Pouch for iPad Pro 10.5, New iPad 9.7 2017/2018, iPad Pro 9.7, iPad Air/Air 2, Tablets up to 11.5 Inch (Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07538HVRG/re ... 4DbM52MR86

We have a cheap little battery operated AM/FM/Weather radio we take with us for white noise at camp. I'd love to find a way to get that from this tablet, but I doubt it has the capability. I know I can stream from most local stations online, but the simplicity of the battery radio will be hard to beat.

I'm tickled it has GPS! I love my topos & satellite views when exploring the Adirondacks. Our *secret is finding old maps from ages ago and finding the old mills, logging camps, abandoned towns, etc. Then, using a good photo editor, overlaying it over current maps for finding & exploring those places.

There's so much real history waiting in the woods, just waiting to be re-found. This adventure tablet will help us do that.

PicsArt_11-30-03.16.44.jpg
Have you tried any Dual Sport style GPS maps? There are literally thousands of dual sport maps that can be added to your tablet with the proper apps installed. You can follow in others tracks and explore your area or the entire country all by uploading GPX files.

I have traveled portions of the Trans America Trail as it transits the Midwest. Also, the Trans Minnesota trail and the Trans Wisconsin Trail have been fun local adventures on my Gear Up. If you're not familiar with these types of navigation, I'll add some descriptions and links to get you started if your interested.

GPS Kevin can give you an introduction to adding and following GPX files. http://www.gpskevinadventurerides.com/

Some local Adirondack adventure loops. https://advrider.com/f/threads/adironda ... p.1322933/

Some info on the Trans America Trail. The TransAmerica Trail is the cross-country adventure ride of a lifetime with mostly off-pavement travel. From scenic vistas and unique attractions to rough terrain and challenging conditions, the TAT presents every rider with the opportunity for an unforgettable journey and memories that will last a lifetime. Depending on the weather and location, riders may face challenges including mud, sand, snow, and rocks among others. As the trail is made up of dirt, gravel, forest, farm, and brief sections of paved roads, The TAT may be traversed using either a dual-sport motorcycle or a 4×4 vehicle.
https://www.transamtrail.com/

Re: Adventure tablet?

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:14 pm
by sixbennetts
Wow! GREAT info, 737AV8OR!! Yes, I'm just starting to explore all the mapping options now that we'll have something big enough for old, tired eyes to see! Up until now, we've been content with Google Maps and downloaded areas for offline use, but I'm looking forward to adding topo info to our exploration!

(We like to find old maps and overlay them to current maps to find old ghost towns, railroad yards, etc).

Thanks!

Re: Adventure tablet?

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:15 pm
by 737AV8OR
sixbennetts wrote:
Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:14 pm
Wow! GREAT info, 737AV8OR!! Yes, I'm just starting to explore all the mapping options now that we'll have something big enough for old, tired eyes to see! Up until now, we've been content with Google Maps and downloaded areas for offline use, but I'm looking forward to adding topo info to our exploration!

(We like to find old maps and overlay them to current maps to find old ghost towns, railroad yards, etc).

Thanks!
It is an amazing amount of fun being able to cross a whole state on dirt 95% of the time all with turn by turn directions via a GPX file. The fact that someone else has already ridden the route almost eliminates wrong turns and dead ends while adventuring on land that was previously unexplored by you personally.

Re: Adventure tablet?

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 4:47 pm
by Mr Wazzock
sixbennetts wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:21 pm
Well, one son has an iPhone, and another an iPad, and I can't stand either one, (the apple crap, not the sons! :lol:)
Just as a matter of interest, I'm now on my second iPhone.

Reason I got an iPhone at all, was I felt I needed to upgrade my ancient NEC 'phone to something more modern, it must have been around 10 years old or more. Voice only and I could receive texts, and that was all. So I went onto my provider's web site to look at getting an upgrade, only a choice of four I think, as part of the deal (viz, can get a discount). There was a Galaxy, I think, and an iPhone. Can't remember the others. Know sweet naff all about any of them so I went onto the Internet for reviews. The iPhone (back then, 'twas a 3GS), consistently kept coming out on top for reliability, all the others had stories how this, that or the other failed and it had to go back to manufacturer to be fixed, or something or other didn't work. That's how I ended up with the iPhone, and indeed it has proved reliable. Also, it works as an iPad so plays music playlists. Also, it's a very good camera, even for macro shots.