Jack for Ural

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Re: Jack for Ural

Post by Desantnik-VDV » Mon May 20, 2019 2:22 am

Hydraulic bottle jacks eventually start leaking.
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Re: Jack for Ural

Post by chaos2 » Mon May 20, 2019 9:55 am

Love to have a fancy Porsche scissors jack or antique screw jack but settled for HF, it works well and fits in my tailpac along with rain gear and 12v air pump, saves trunk space.
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Re: Jack for Ural

Post by OHScot » Mon May 20, 2019 10:25 am

I do not understand why we need jacks. Side car can be tipped up, center stand holds up the front wheel and rear wheel. Just need something to roll up on to get the dern thing up on the center stand. All kinds of crap in my trunk I can roll over if I can't find something on the side of the road. What am I missing?
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Re: Jack for Ural

Post by Penrod » Mon May 20, 2019 12:09 pm

OHScot wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 10:25 am
I do not understand why we need jacks. Side car can be tipped up, center stand holds up the front wheel and rear wheel. Just need something to roll up on to get the dern thing up on the center stand. All kinds of crap in my trunk I can roll over if I can't find something on the side of the road. What am I missing?
I'm short and a lightweight old guy. I need a jack to get it on the center stand. So far, never needed on the road in over 18,000K of riding, but I like to be prepared.
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Re: Jack for Ural

Post by codemonkey001 » Mon May 20, 2019 1:25 pm

Penrod wrote:
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Scissors jack, held to the luggage rack with two stainless steel hose clamps. Doesn't take up much room.
Ooh, thanks for the idea. I've kept mine in a canvas bag in the trunk hoping it wouldn't rattle around too much. That's a much more elegant solution.
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Re: Jack for Ural

Post by tparr » Mon May 20, 2019 3:05 pm

OHScot wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 10:25 am
I do not understand why we need jacks. Side car can be tipped up, center stand holds up the front wheel and rear wheel. Just need something to roll up on to get the dern thing up on the center stand. All kinds of crap in my trunk I can roll over if I can't find something on the side of the road. What am I missing?

in a perfect situation I might agree, however, we might not always be on a firm concrete garage floor. also not as easy with a flat rear tire. If i was trying to do this on gravel or dirt or an un level surface it is much more difficult. I have tried to tip the sidecar and i just dont have enough muscle.
I was installing a new tire on my pusher wheel the other day ( ill gladly pay to have this done in the future), the bike was on its center stand and i was using the trunk as the workbench ala Lokiboy. Well i pushed a little too hard and the bike rolled forward off the center stand and crashed onto the left muffler. no real damage but it did take a jack to get it back up. I should have chocked the wheels. ( :o

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Re: Jack for Ural

Post by chaos2 » Mon May 20, 2019 4:06 pm

OHScot wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 10:25 am
I do not understand why we need jacks.

You're right, but having had flats with and without a jack I much rather have a jack. Just makes things easier for my old bod.
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Re: Jack for Ural

Post by Penrod » Mon May 20, 2019 4:29 pm

tparr wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 3:05 pm
OHScot wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 10:25 am
I was installing a new tire on my pusher wheel the other day ( ill gladly pay to have this done in the future), the bike was on its center stand and i was using the trunk as the workbench ala Lokiboy. Well i pushed a little too hard and the bike rolled forward off the center stand and crashed onto the left muffler. no real damage but it did take a jack to get it back up. I should have chocked the wheels. ( :o

Pterodactyl wins the best looking Jack!! :D
Harbor Freight sells a set of 2 small foldable wheel chocks. Very compact cost $7.99, I just checked online. I always chock the front wheel when the bike is on the center stand. ...just for safety.
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Re: Jack for Ural

Post by jaybird » Mon May 20, 2019 4:38 pm

Penrod wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 4:29 pm
tparr wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 3:05 pm
OHScot wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 10:25 am
I was installing a new tire on my pusher wheel the other day ( ill gladly pay to have this done in the future), the bike was on its center stand and i was using the trunk as the workbench ala Lokiboy. Well i pushed a little too hard and the bike rolled forward off the center stand and crashed onto the left muffler. no real damage but it did take a jack to get it back up. I should have chocked the wheels. ( :o

Pterodactyl wins the best looking Jack!! :D
Harbor Freight sells a set of 2 small foldable wheel chocks. Very compact and around $10. I always chock the front wheel when the bike is on the center stand. ...just for safety.
It's been discussed on here at various times; running a strap through the front wheel, back around the center stand, and cinching it up tight. Goes a long way toward keeping the rig on the center stand, with or without chocks.

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Re: Jack for Ural

Post by Mr Wazzock » Mon May 20, 2019 6:23 pm

tparr wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 3:05 pm
I should have chocked the wheels. ( :o
Safey rule #1 as per jacking up cars, must also use wheel chocks on the other non-jacked wheels. I have rubber ones, which subsequently shouldn't slide on pavement. :D
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Re: Jack for Ural

Post by tparr » Mon May 20, 2019 9:12 pm

Mr Wazzock wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 6:23 pm
tparr wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 3:05 pm
I should have chocked the wheels. ( :o
Safey rule #1 as per jacking up cars, must also use wheel chocks on the other non-jacked wheels. I have rubber ones, which subsequently shouldn't slide on pavement. :D
I knew better, but I did it anyway. :oops:
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Re: Jack for Ural

Post by windmill » Fri May 24, 2019 9:46 am

chaos2 wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 4:06 pm
OHScot wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 10:25 am
I do not understand why we need jacks.

You're right, but having had flats with and without a jack I much rather have a jack. Just makes things easier for my old bod.
Flats don't always come in ideal locations, when the rig is empty, the birds are singing, and the sun is shining.
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Re: Jack for Ural

Post by RC20 » Sun May 26, 2019 3:23 pm

I do not understand why we need jacks. Side car can be tipped up, center stand holds up the front wheel and rear wheel. Just need something to roll up on to get the dern thing up on the center stand. All kinds of crap in my trunk I can roll over if I can't find something on the side of the road. What am I missing?
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Its the reason I can't run a cycle. I can't horse it up on the center stand.

A jack makes good sense for a lot of reasons, including horsing up on a center stand where you blow out a disk (not that is not what happened to me but I did wrack a disk on one trip and trust me, you don't want to do that, no pain killer deals with it short of opioids and those are not common on the road)

You have the room and capacity, worth using it.
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Re: Jack for Ural

Post by BinDerSmokDat » Wed May 29, 2019 9:39 am

BinDerSmokDat wrote:
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The gear ratio is such that you can turn it with a large screwdriver, no need to even bring the jack handle.
Since this post I've upgraded my tool bag.
Since I carry a drill for the Warn drill winch, I made a little rod to fit the drill and into the jack.
So now I have an electric jack.
I can still manually crank it if need be, but having the drill for times I'm lazy or injured is nice.

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Re: Jack for Ural

Post by BinDerSmokDat » Wed May 29, 2019 9:48 am

OHScot wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 10:25 am
I do not understand why we need jacks...What am I missing?
Jacks have their uses.

Try changing a tire off-road on soft ground.
Pushing the rear tire up onto anything is a chore and with a flat tire is down right difficult.
Plus since you need to put wood under the center stand to keep it from sinking in, the tire has to be that much higher off the ground to flip it down.

Also, if you ever bury the bike in sand and don't have a come-along or winch, jack it up at the rear sidecar dogleg, fill in hole under tire. Ditto if bike gets hung up on something.

Ever had the sidecar frame slip towards the bike at one of the doglegs while hammering over stone washboard ledges? Stick the jack in there to push it back apart.

Lastly, some folks lack the physical strength or limb length required to roll the bike up onto blocks and then hold center stand forward with foot while pushing bike back.

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