Fading Tonneau Cover

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Re: Fading Tonneau Cover

Post by SkippysPad » Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:36 pm

Bilgekeeldave wrote:
nbsdave wrote:I use Back to Black often, have not tried the other stuff.
neither works on fabric though
A Ural toneau cover is not vinyl?

Dave
Nope....the 2013s and after are "Cordura".....a kinda nylon type of material. The website http://www.cordura.com/en/index.html doesn't really say what it's made from.
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Re: Fading Tonneau Cover

Post by nbsdave » Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:03 am

Bilgekeeldave wrote:
nbsdave wrote:I use Back to Black often, have not tried the other stuff.
neither works on fabric though
A Ural toneau cover is not vinyl?

Dave

Some are, in the very first post where the question is asked, Cordura is mentioned as the tonneau material.
Cordura is not vinyl.
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Re: Fading Tonneau Cover

Post by tx2sturgis » Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:48 am

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Re: Fading Tonneau Cover

Post by tonered » Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:42 pm

SkippysPad wrote:A little update........
I stopped by the dealership to see if they had any thoughts about this issue. They offered up a tonneau cover from a trade in that was faded out worse than mine. I was able to try both the Kiwi and the spray paint methods.

The Kiwi method didn't impress me. It might do good on a jacket where you have lots of odd shapes etc., but on a large piece of fabric it was impossible to get even coverage. I was 3 coats in and could still see uneven lines and places that were lighter than others. I finished it off spraying it with several coats of "Scotch Guard" outdoor water shield. This is the stuff made for water proofing tents, awnings.....etc. The Scotch Guard evened out the lines some.....but they were still pretty obvious in direct sun.
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Not happy with the way that turned out, I bought some Flat Black Rust-Oleum made for most any application from metal to nylon and plastic. I did as the previous video suggested and applied light coats until all the fading and lines were evened out. I then put a couple of coats of the same Scotch Guard on and let everything dry. This one came out looking like it did when it was new. It looked so good, that once the Kiwi one was dry, I did it the same way.

Mine wasn't quite as faded......but.....Before
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After
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Of course.....time will tell how well it stands up to the sun. My bike is in the garage unless it's on the road or sitting in the parking lot at work. So I was a little surprised at how quickly it faded. Apparently there is something new coming that will be more resistant to the UV damage of the current fabric.

As for the grommets. If you don't want them black as well, a little chap stick over just the top will allow you to clean the paint right off when you're done.
Mine is very faded as well, almost to silver. It looks okay on my FF GU, but I randomly think about dying it back to black. A long time ago, I dyed some white nylon wheels from an R/C truck from natural to black with Rit dye. I didn't leave them in long enough, so they ended up being a very dark purple. Over the time that I used them, only the places where they got nicked with gravel were there any problems.

I was even able to clean up the pot really well when done.

One of these days, I may try cooking up the cover in some dye.

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Re: Fading Tonneau Cover

Post by SkippysPad » Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:54 pm

I tried the Rit dye last fall and saw ZERO change. I left it soaking over night in a 5 gallon bucket with an extra heavy solution of dye and not even a shade darker. I'm not sure what "Cordura" is, but it doesn't seem to take dye and at the same time fades pretty quickly.
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Re: Fading Tonneau Cover

Post by tonered » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:12 pm

From what I remember, you need to add some heat to the mix, esp for 'color fast' materials / man made materials.

Cordura is nylon.

When my tonneau was new, it seemed to bead water, so there might be some waterproofer applied during manufacture. Maybe w@$#ing it first with detergent to remove the waterproofing.

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Re: Fading Tonneau Cover

Post by The Stagedive » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:39 am

SkippysPad wrote: Mine wasn't quite as faded......but.....Before
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After
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Of course.....time will tell how well it stands up to the sun. My bike is in the garage unless it's on the road or sitting in the parking lot at work. So I was a little surprised at how quickly it faded. Apparently there is something new coming that will be more resistant to the UV damage of the current fabric.

As for the grommets. If you don't want them black as well, a little chap stick over just the top will allow you to clean the paint right off when you're done.
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My 2011 Cover had faded to silver/white! Texas sun! It looked reaaaaaaaaaly bad. I'd just been riding with it for years. So I got my bike back from a repair that took far far far too long (and the bastard stored her in the sun the whole time!), and decided to give your method a go!

I just did the spray paint and camp seal yesterday, and its looks fantastic! I gotta ask, how well did your hold up after doing this? Timewise I mean. I know I'll have to replace it eventually, but just wanted to see how long your take on it lasted?

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Re: Fading Tonneau Cover

Post by Beastmaster » Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:09 am

I have a vinyl cover on mine and am a big fan of 303 Aerospace Protectant (bilgekeeldave posted a link above). I've used it on my Jeep for years and nothing beats it under the Arizona sun. :thumbsup:
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Re: Fading Tonneau Cover

Post by Ironhand » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:12 pm

Has anyone tried the spray paint method on the seat cover? Both my tonneau and seat cover have faded to shade of purple which I'd like to do away with.
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Re: Fading Tonneau Cover

Post by INSUBORDINATOR » Sun May 06, 2018 12:45 pm

Spray Vinyl Upholstery color will work on Cordura, because it will color vinyl. I wonder what the black rubberized spray "as seen on TV" would do. I sprayed several battery boxes with it. it went on thin & dried a thin rubber coating. I'm guessing it would work.
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Re: Fading Tonneau Cover

Post by Rich Maund » Tue May 29, 2018 7:57 pm

Since about 2013 the tonneaus have been made from a lightweight nylon Cordura fabric. Unfortunately it has little UV resistance. I recommend marine canvas or marine vinyls for these. Also, must use the Poly sun gard thread to build them, that way you have marine grade UV resistant material all around. Nylon just doesn't hold up long in outdoor use.
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Re: Fading Tonneau Cover

Post by dogboy443 » Tue May 29, 2018 10:15 pm

This from the guy who knows his shite about marine grade canvas and cordura and leather.
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Re: Fading Tonneau Cover

Post by Tomcatfixer » Wed May 30, 2018 5:00 am

Since about 2013 the tonneaus have been made from a lightweight nylon Cordura fabric.
Curiously, my 2015 cT came with a vinyl tonneau cover. Perhaps it's just the "rugged" 2WD models that come with the Cordura tonneau.

The hack windscreen, which I purchased separately, came with a Cordura apron, which is now a lovely shade of purple on top. I see that the new cT aprons are vinyl.
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I had purchased some RIT dye, with the intention of boiling the apron back to black, but after reading this thread, perhaps I'll explore some of the other suggested options. Thanks for the tips, fellahs.
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Re: Fading Tonneau Cover

Post by Mr Wazzock » Wed May 30, 2018 7:52 am

Tomcatfixer wrote:
Since about 2013 the tonneaus have been made from a lightweight nylon Cordura fabric.
Curiously, my 2015 cT came with a vinyl tonneau cover.
Ditto.

Last year I made a copy, also from black vinyl, without any of the holes in the top 'cause I was fed up with rain getting into the tub. Still working nearly a year later and hasn't changed color. (There's a topic about it on SS somewhere.) :D
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Re: Fading Tonneau Cover

Post by Tomcatfixer » Wed May 30, 2018 1:17 pm

There's a topic about it on SS somewhere.
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