[ U P D A T E D - March 2014 ] - Ural 4.00 x 19 Tire Matrix

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Ural Compatible 4.00 x 19 Tire Matrix - Prices and Suppliers

Post by canoewest » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:48 am

Great job Dan on a good resource for folks. I'll add that the mileage I'm getting on my hf307 appears to be similar to what Dom got. 2500km on the pusher so far and over half the tread is gone. If I get 5000km I'll be surprised.
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Post by BinDerSmokDat » Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:42 pm

canoewest wrote:Great job Dan on a good resource for folks. I'll add that the mileage I'm getting on my hf307 appears to be similar to what Dom got. 2500km on the pusher so far and over half the tread is gone. If I get 5000km I'll be surprised.
First ditto thanks to Dan.
I'm similar as Canoe on mileage estimates.
I've got Duro 307's front and rear on my rig, previously ran Uralshina front and Duro 308 rear.
I to am on track to get about 5000km on my rear and a bit more on the front.

That's good for me, being a large rider (290lbs) who rides the rig hard (scrubbing the back tire on hard turns, jackrabbit starts.)
With my modified seat and being 6'5" I sit higher, further back and have a higher CoG than most riders so I scrub the rear more than most riders on hard turns.
I killed the original 'Shina in less than 3500km, the Duro 308 lasted 4500-500km.

I LOVE THE 307 in dirt and mud. They even did well on rock and red clay the one time I had it in the hills of Central PA.
It's a very "streetable" tire and the only other Ural tires I've seen handle the mud and sand in NJ as well (actually better) were the full knobbies many of the 1WD guys swap in for trail riding.
Unlike a knobbie, you can run the 307 both on and off-road with minimal trade-offs.
307's are slightly noisier than 308's/'Shina's, producing a "hum" on pavement.
307's squirm slightly in the rear on hard corners as the blocks flex, but they have never broken traction on pavement.

One big benefit is by running one upfront you can get enough traction in sand/mud/loose downhill to use a little front brake off-road.
The 'Shina would just become a big "ski" in the slop when braking.

I've only had experience with the 'Shina, 308 and 307, but I'm going to be running the 307 from now on.
As a plus they look really cool and give a rig that instant "go anywhere" look with the trail chops to match. 8)

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Re: Ural Compatible 4.00 x 19 Tire Matrix - Prices and Suppl

Post by co_g30 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:26 pm

canoewest wrote:Great job Dan on a good resource for folks. I'll add that the mileage I'm getting on my hf307 appears to be similar to what Dom got. 2500km on the pusher so far and over half the tread is gone. If I get 5000km I'll be surprised.
fwiw, got about 5500 on the hf307...probably wont use them again. Due to a mixup, another hf307 got put on in Salem, OR and 3000km later more than half worn when it experienced a busted inner tube. dissapointing.

going to be trying the duro hf308s on Alaska's roads, we'll see how they hold up
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Re: Ural Compatible 4.00 x 19 Tire Matrix - Prices and Suppl

Post by BinDerSmokDat » Thu May 02, 2013 2:11 pm

co_g30 wrote:...going to be trying the duro hf308s on Alaska's roads, we'll see how they hold up
My experience with the 308 versus the ongoing use of the 307 would seem to me that the 307 is going to last longer.
I think with the chunkier tread, there is just more material to wear down with the 307.

The 308 is more mild mannered and behaves great on pavement, much less tire hum than 307's and no tread squirm on the rear when scrubbing hard in turns.
I found I could run the 308 at 35psi to get good even tread wear as a pusher, but with the bigger blockier lugs of the 307, I have to keep psi at 40 to minimize "tread squirm."

I ran at 36psi for hack and 38 for front with both 307 and 308.

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Re: Updated 2013.04.01 - Ural Compatible 4.00 x 19 Tire Matr

Post by rebelpacket » Sun May 05, 2013 11:36 pm

Just a heads up; Smalltires.com has 6-ply Duro HF307's for 60.98$ per tire.

I just ordered 4 HF307's (60.98$), and 2 HF308's ($54.88). Shipping for 6 tires to Colorado was 70$.
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Re: Updated 2013.04.01 - Ural Compatible 4.00 x 19 Tire Matr

Post by BinDerSmokDat » Mon May 06, 2013 12:39 pm

rebelpacket wrote:Just a heads up; Smalltires.com has 6-ply Duro HF307's for 60.98$ per tire.

I just ordered 4 HF307's (60.98$), and 2 HF308's ($54.88). Shipping for 6 tires to Colorado was 70$.
Nice! Thanks for the heads up. Is your plan to run the 307 as a pusher and the 308 on the front?

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Post by rebelpacket » Mon May 06, 2013 4:34 pm

BinDerSmokDat wrote: Nice! Thanks for the heads up. Is your plan to run the 307 as a pusher and the 308 on the front?
No; I bought the 307's for an upcoming 3500 mile dirt trip. I have to slab it to the start, so I'm going to use 308's on the front wheel and pusher until I get to the start. Then I'm going to use 307's all the way around until I get to the end, change the 308's back on and ride the slab back to home.
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Re: Updated 2013.04.01 - Ural Compatible 4.00 x 19 Tire Matr

Post by mtbjohnny27 » Wed May 08, 2013 2:59 pm

Has anyone purchased tires from these guys? They have a ural "special " on 3, shipping included.

http://www.kgmotorcycletires.com/kenda_ ... e_tire.htm



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Post by DanKearney » Wed May 08, 2013 4:53 pm

mtbjohnny27 wrote:Has anyone purchased tires from these guys? They have a ural "special " on 3, shipping included.

http://www.kgmotorcycletires.com/kenda_ ... e_tire.htm

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I haven't dealt with them, but I bought 3 K335's from Motorcycle superstore for the same price - $86 per tire w/ free shipping.

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Post by mtbjohnny27 » Thu May 09, 2013 5:38 pm

DanKearney wrote:
mtbjohnny27 wrote:Has anyone purchased tires from these guys? They have a ural "special " on 3, shipping included.

http://www.kgmotorcycletires.com/kenda_ ... e_tire.htm

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I haven't dealt with them, but I bought 3 K335's from Motorcycle superstore for the same price - $86 per tire w/ free shipping.

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Dan- thats seems to be right on and a fair price with shipping. Ill spend my money there.8-)

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Post by rebelpacket » Fri May 10, 2013 10:19 am

mtbjohnny27 wrote:Has anyone purchased tires from these guys? They have a ural "special " on 3, shipping included.

http://www.kgmotorcycletires.com/kenda_ ... e_tire.htm

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Just make sure you get the 6-ply tires. The 4-ply are a little cheaper, but will flex a bunch more.
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Re: Updated 2013.04.01 - Ural Compatible 4.00 x 19 Tire Matr

Post by cueman » Fri May 10, 2013 3:39 pm

I'm torn between the HF307's first, then K335's second also. Does anybody have any recent experience as to which will last longer? They say the new K335s are a harder compound nowadays so any info on mileage??? :? cueman
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Post by DanKearney » Fri May 10, 2013 3:52 pm

cueman wrote:I'm torn between the HF307's first, then K335's second also. Does anybody have any recent experience as to which will last longer? They say the new K335s are a harder compound nowadays so any info on mileage??? :? cueman
Without having made a measurement yet. . .

I put the K335's on the bike a week before I left for Moab. 350 miles of mostly paved roads to get there. About 400 miles of mostly dirt and slick-rock riding while in Moab. And 350 miles home again. A little over 1,100 miles total.

Just looking at the pusher, it looks worn down by about 1/3, leaving about 2/3 of the original tread depth. Hack wheel still looks new. Front wheel looks worn down by maybe 1/8 to 1/4 of the original tread depth.

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Re: Updated 2013.04.01 - Ural Compatible 4.00 x 19 Tire Matr

Post by Leftka » Fri May 10, 2013 4:09 pm

i got 8500 kms out my stock duro 308 (could've squeezed a little more too). i've been looking at everything, cokers, avons, firestone...i ride street bout 100%. after looking at it all i think the duro is the best street tire value out there...and looks good on the tourist.
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Re: Updated 2013.04.01 - Ural Compatible 4.00 x 19 Tire Matr

Post by cueman » Fri May 10, 2013 4:16 pm

Thanks Dan, Well, it seems the hf307 may last a little longer from what I've read on SS about the Duro's.
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