Raising the bar(s)...longer throttle cable needed

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Raising the bar(s)...longer throttle cable needed

Post by BinDerSmokDat » Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:55 am

I bought these Rox Riser knock-offs on Amazon and they work well.
I am tall and tend to sit far back, especially when flying over the whoops out in the Pines.
I'm sitting almost to where the pillion seat would be.
I put them on and did a whole Jersey Devil Hunt with less leg cramping and overall physical fatigue than usual.

The problem is I'm limited as to how high and how much further back I can move them by the throttle cable.
I have them as high and rearward as possible, I can't go any further without the bike revving when the handlebars are at left lock.
I ran a piece of cord along the stock throttle cable and it is about 28" or 70 cm.
I would like another 3-4 inches of length to have slack.
Seeing a lot of domino cables online but none that can confirm the length.
Unlike brake lines which are standard (see below) I'm having trouble confirming the cable ends are universal/standard.
Anyone know of a cable that will work?

I think the front brake line is long enough to move things a few more inches back, but if not, that is easy to replace.
Any braided steel brake line with 10mm ends, one 90 degrees and the other 28 degrees will work.
This is a common configuration with the stock length on my 2010 about 34" or 85cm.
You can find them in a variety of colors and lengths as cheap as $13.

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Re: Raising the bar(s)...longer throttle cable needed

Post by BinDerSmokDat » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:00 pm

I found markings on the throttle cable... "J.Juan-7 08."
J. Juan is a European wholesale distributor of brake parts and control cables, sort of like Domino.
I can't find any other info on the cables themselves.

There is a "catalog" but it is really just a brochure of all the types of components they handle, nothing with actual part numbers.

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Post by BinDerSmokDat » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:09 pm

Further research shows that the "-7 08" may be a date code.
A used cable from a 2013 Triumph Tiger 800 has "JJUAN-10-12"
A used cable off of a 2012 Triumph 675 Street Triple is marked "JJUAN-04-11"
Mine is a 2010, so the numbers seem to be "month/year."

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Post by Lmo » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:03 pm

I went straight to Barret Clutch and had them build 'custom' cables for me; they have an in-house cable shop and can fabricate anything, for any bike.

https://www.barnettclutches.com/service ... ?faq_id=22
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Re: Raising the bar(s)...longer throttle cable needed

Post by jvan1954 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:41 pm

I'm only six feet and still find the bar/tractor seat combo uncomfortable. I was unable to raise my bars by even two inches over stock not due to cables but the wiring. Did you have to rewire? I
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Re: Raising the bar(s)...longer throttle cable needed

Post by BinDerSmokDat » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:07 pm

Lmo wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:03 pm
I went straight to Barret Clutch and had them build 'custom' cables for me; they have an in-house cable shop and can fabricate anything, for any bike.

https://www.barnettclutches.com/service ... ?faq_id=22
Thanks! If I can't find a "stock" cable that is longer somewhere, I will check them out.

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Re: Raising the bar(s)...longer throttle cable needed

Post by BinDerSmokDat » Tue Oct 13, 2020 7:51 am

jvan1954 wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:41 pm
I'm only six feet and still find the bar/tractor seat combo uncomfortable. I was unable to raise my bars by even two inches over stock not due to cables but the wiring. Did you have to rewire? I
Wiring is less of an issue. I clipped the ties holding the control wiring to the headstock area and there was some room to move the handlebars without interfering with the wiring.

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Re: Raising the bar(s)...longer throttle cable needed

Post by makarov » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:04 pm

When I put Rox Risers on my KTM dual sport bike I needed custom length cables too. I had Motion Pro make them. The company was very easy to work with and knowledgeable. I remember talking to the tech that made them as he wanted to verify then end types and measurements.

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Re: Raising the bar(s)...longer throttle cable needed

Post by ruffy » Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:38 am

I added Rox risers and a protaper bar. I didn't have wire or throttle issues but my clutch cable couldn't make it to the right location with stock routing. I moved it and there's no interference but it doesn't look super great. We'll see if vanity forces me to find longer clutch cables.
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Re: Raising the bar(s)...longer throttle cable needed

Post by Snakeoil » Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:04 pm

I can second Barnett cables.

Throttle cables tend to be lighter duty and I've seen universal kits that give you all your need to make your own custom length cable. They give you multiple ends as well. A search for universal motorcycle cable might turn up some other choices. I did a quick search and it turned up all kinds of choices.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=universal ... A1&PC=HCTS
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Re: Raising the bar(s)...longer throttle cable needed

Post by Tomcatfixer » Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:48 pm

Did you ever resolve your throttle cable issue, Rich?

Also, I'll "third" Barnett. They built a longer clutch cable for me with a Teflon lining that is exquisite.

Exquisite, I said.
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Re: Raising the bar(s)...longer throttle cable needed

Post by BinDerSmokDat » Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:53 pm

Tomcatfixer wrote:
Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:48 pm
Did you ever resolve your throttle cable issue, Rich?

Also, I'll "third" Barnett. They built a longer clutch cable for me with a Teflon lining that is exquisite.

Exquisite, I said.
Sorry for the late reply, only now seeing this.
The knock-off Rox risers worked well, they raised the bars but still not where I wanted them.
The throttle cable was the limit.
In full lock right hand turning it would rev the bike. :|

When the stock risers broke last year the replacements were tall enough that I couldn’t use them AND the Rox risers.
So the bars are raised, but not pulled back like with the Rox risers.
It’s a compromise that I’m living with at the moment.

Here’s the riser thread.

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