Van Got "Karen'ed"

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Re: Van Got "Karen'ed"

Post by DRC458 » Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:32 am

You have done an excellent ... make that, unbelievable! ... job training your dogs, Van! I love watching you work them. As for the busy body who reported you, well, just blow her off and go on with life. Good job!
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Re: Van Got "Karen'ed"

Post by tx2sturgis » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:51 pm

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Re: Van Got "Karen'ed"

Post by Mr Wazzock » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:13 pm

Sorry for being thick, can someone explain what "Karened" is please, I might have known once but if I had I've forgotten :oops:
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Re: Van Got "Karen'ed"

Post by MartyL » Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:37 pm

I would think it’s a busybody.
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Re: Van Got "Karen'ed"

Post by bratmanxj » Sun Aug 02, 2020 7:56 pm

Mr Wazzock wrote:
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Sorry for being thick, can someone explain what "Karened" is please, I might have known once but if I had I've forgotten :oops:
Its a joke going round the States giving the name "Karen" to any middle-age white woman of a specific look/attitude who asks to speak to the manager any time she can't get her way.

It started in retail sales: "That Karen just tried to return a half eaten watermelon, when I told her we can't accept returns on open food she asked to speak to the manager even though my name tag say Manager!"
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Re: Van Got "Karen'ed"

Post by Mr Wazzock » Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:44 pm

Thank you! Just wondering why that name, is what I originally meant to ask :thumbsup:

Trying to think what the UK equivalent is. EDIT: probably is 'busybody'
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Re: Van Got "Karen'ed"

Post by rougaroo » Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:48 pm

"Busybody" is kind of an innocuous term to me, like the old lady neighbor who peeks out her window spying on people up and down her street. The Karens have been in pretty well-reported kerfuffles over here, some having racial overtones, all asserting some sort of privilege.

Perhaps the most reported one was "Central Park Karen" in NYC She was walking her dog in Central Park with the dog off its leash. A black man who was watching birds very politely asked her to please put her dog on a leash. She freaked out, called the police, said a black man was threatening her life, and to come quickly. Unfortunately for her, as the incident escalated the man recorded the event on his cell phone. She's since lost her job and faces other repercussions for false charges: https://newsone.com/3950438/list-of-rep ... ling-cops/.

The man, incidentally, thinks she's been treated too harshly.

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Re: Van Got "Karen'ed"

Post by Claus » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:00 am

Mr Wazzock wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:13 pm
Sorry for being thick, can someone explain what "Karened" is please, I might have known once but if I had I've forgotten :oops:
I had to google this , too. We have got plenty of these women in our country but there´s no such term for them yet.
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Re: Van Got "Karen'ed"

Post by GoatTracks » Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:06 am

Claus wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:00 am
Mr Wazzock wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:13 pm
Sorry for being thick, can someone explain what "Karened" is please, I might have known once but if I had I've forgotten :oops:
I had to google this , too. We have got plenty of these women in our country but there´s no such term for them yet.
You could call them "Karen" too *grin*

I only recently learned of this moniker for middle aged impossible women. Not sure it's fair to all the other Karen's in the world but it does do a good job of summing up "whiny, self-entitled entirely unreasonable middle aged white women" without taking too much effort to type.

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Re: Van Got "Karen'ed"

Post by Peter Pan » Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:04 am

Claus,
in stead we used to have "Kaiserlich, königliches Hofgericht" und "Ohnsorgtheater", where those kind of behaviour schemes were exposed well for everybody get to notice it fast enough. In Latinamerica we had "Tres Patines" in "La tremenda Corte"*, with lessons that possibly will not come over to nowadays generations, because now even a slight comment or gesture becomes misinterpreted as "politically incorrect", "offensive", "discriminating", "prejudice", ... put as many "unwords" you want.

I insist in one lesson I learned in life. Kids need to grow up with animals (and best in rural surroundings), otherwise they do not learn well enough "social competence".

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* Myself, I didn't know the despective "Karen" neither, but equivalent would be perhaps "Nananina" (and Heidi Kabel ?)
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Re: Van Got "Karen'ed"

Post by Wildhorse Cafe » Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:37 pm

Mr Wazzock wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:13 pm
Sorry for being thick, can someone explain what "Karened" is please, I might have known once but if I had I've forgotten :oops:
Prime example:
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Re: Van Got "Karen'ed"

Post by tx2sturgis » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:01 pm

rougaroo wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:48 pm


Perhaps the most reported one was "Central Park Karen" in NYC She was walking her dog in Central Park with the dog off its leash. A black man who was watching birds very politely asked her to please put her dog on a leash. She freaked out, called the police, said a black man was threatening her life, and to come quickly. Unfortunately for her, as the incident escalated the man recorded the event on his cell phone. She's since lost her job and faces other repercussions for false charges: https://newsone.com/3950438/list-of-rep ... ling-cops/.

The man, incidentally, thinks she's been treated too harshly.

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This black man, Christian Cooper, admitted threatening her and trying to lure her dog away with dog treats he carries for that reason, before the recording started. THAT'S why he thinks she is being harshly treated. He feels partly responsible for basically, ruining her life.

Yes, she did react strongly, but she DID feel threatened.

Possibly he has done this before? He's not quite as innocent as he appears in the video.
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Re: Van Got "Karen'ed"

Post by Lofty » Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:22 pm

Mr Wazzock wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:13 pm
Sorry for being thick, can someone explain what "Karened" is please, I might have known once but if I had I've forgotten :oops:
No apology necessary.

"Karen" is just the most current insult to make the rounds on the social bandwagon. Its shelf life is indeterminate. Last year, "snowflake" might have been used. The word is deployed as a libel against a white woman with whom the commenter disagrees on least one particular point. As the preceding post by tx2sturgis makes plain, where the missing parts of a recent media narrative are disclosed, the epithet is easily to use irresponsibly.

No less an authority than George Orwell has documented the danger of perverting language.
https://www.ocregister.com/2015/05/16/r ... al-effect/

The word busybody remains a perfectly serviceable way to comment on all such matters. It certainly doesn't have the distinctly racial identity that "Karen" purposely does. If raycism is so bad, then it must be bad in all of its forms, yes?

That this thread has gone on for four pages, thus far, suggests otherwise.
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Re: Van Got "Karen'ed"

Post by tx2sturgis » Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:39 pm

I agree with the above text, but the link is non-functional for me (ad blocker blocker) so I am not agreeing or disagreeing with it.

But if the man in the Central Park video had been white and the woman had been an older black lady, would the media refer to her as a 'mammy'?

I think not.

And I'm not dismissing the original event in this thread. It was unfortunate.
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Re: Van Got "Karen'ed"

Post by Desantnik-VDV » Tue Aug 04, 2020 4:53 pm

Claus wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:00 am
Mr Wazzock wrote:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 6:13 pm
Sorry for being thick, can someone explain what "Karened" is please, I might have known once but if I had I've forgotten :oops:
I had to google this , too. We have got plenty of these women in our country but there´s no such term for them yet.
Claus, how about Gertrude? :D She is in my mind ... a little softer, middle age, overweight, country lady.

But I like all three of them as well - "Kaiserlich, königliches Hofgericht".

And then "Reichskammergericht". :lol:
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