Best Ural Tool Roll Ever?

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Re: Best Ural Tool Roll Ever?

Post by jaybird » Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:34 am

windmill wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:39 pm
I remember one time when I was riding the moguls on a snowmobile trail...think 3' high washboard... with some other folks . One of the other riders flagged me down because my Jerry can broke out through the bottom of the mount.
I figured I would use some rope to lash it back in place, and when I opened my trunk to get it, the 3/4" thick rubber floor mat was on top of everything. My kit bag and tool roll both tore open, and their contents were mixed up with everything else, including my drinks and snacks under the floor mat.

I don't think it matters what one uses, but it dang sure needs to be secure.
I’ve had similar happen too, and I wouldn’t want to add an exploded fire extinguisher or can of WD 40 etc to the mix.

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Re: Best Ural Tool Roll Ever?

Post by windmill » Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:48 am

jaybird wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:34 am
windmill wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:39 pm
I remember one time when I was riding the moguls on a snowmobile trail...think 3' high washboard... with some other folks . One of the other riders flagged me down because my Jerry can broke out through the bottom of the mount.
I figured I would use some rope to lash it back in place, and when I opened my trunk to get it, the 3/4" thick rubber floor mat was on top of everything. My kit bag and tool roll both tore open, and their contents were mixed up with everything else, including my drinks and snacks under the floor mat.

I don't think it matters what one uses, but it dang sure needs to be secure.
I’ve had similar happen too, and I wouldn’t want to add an exploded fire extinguisher or can of WD 40 etc to the mix.

Happy trails,
Jaybird
I learned the hard way with starter fluid.....that stuff penetrates the paint and the odor lasts for many months.
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Re: Best Ural Tool Roll Ever?

Post by Tomcatfixer » Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:44 am

rougaroo wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:05 am
Cheap hardware on the knockoff? Upgrades are minor fixes and cheap-

https://www.strapworks.com/Snap_Hooks_s/36.htm

Rougaroo
Great find, Bob, but I don't believe it will be necessary to replace the ChiCom's hardware. It's cheap hardware, but not chintzy.
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Re: Best Ural Tool Roll Ever?

Post by BinDerSmokDat » Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:35 am

Lofty wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:24 pm
BDSD and I did traverse some truly rough patches in and near Michaux State Forest during Friday's day ride at the 2019 Gettysburg Blue-Gray Rally.
Lofty, that is a very tidy trunk, I'm envious.
But Jay is right...Michaux wasn't very challenging and that trunk set-up wouldn't survive a JDH.
We have sand in NJ and it tends to build in oscillating patterns that are colloquially referred to as "whoop-dee-doos" or "whoops."
Hit them at a spirited pace and it's like a bucking bronco.
I remember hitting some whoops a little too quick and looked over to see my 5'8" wife launched upward to about my height. :oops:
And these aren't just a few bumps here and there. Several 1/8th to 1/4 mile stretches in a ride isn't uncommon.

Also cardboard is a no-no in a trunk. It never seems to hold up to dunkings and holds moisture.

Dave and I unknowingly hit the same section of water on different days of the Fall 18 JDH.
We were going in opposite directions but we both got stuck.
Dave's trunk has carpet and is usually pretty tidy (though not as tidy as yours) but neither of us escaped the dreaded "trunk dunking."
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Re: Best Ural Tool Roll Ever?

Post by Tomcatfixer » Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:42 am

Several 1/8th to 1/4 mile stretches in a ride isn't uncommon.
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Re: Best Ural Tool Roll Ever?

Post by BinDerSmokDat » Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:31 pm

Also after scrolling in more detail, what Barry said isn't uncommon on a JDH. Repetitive cycling of the sidecar bouncing up and down takes it's toll on trunk contents and sidecar mounted accessories. More than one guy has packed his lunch carefully only to find contents shifted and his toolbag has pureed his hoagie.

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Re: Best Ural Tool Roll Ever?

Post by BinDerSmokDat » Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:34 pm

Tomcatfixer wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2020 10:42 am
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This photo is three cautionary tales in one...

1. When your front tire is off the ground, it can't steer.
2. Sidecar bumpers are useless.
3. Chad Happens!

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Re: Best Ural Tool Roll Ever?

Post by Tomcatfixer » Mon Feb 17, 2020 2:27 pm

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2007 Honda VTR1000 FireStorm (Super Hawk in U.S.)
2001 Buell Blast! - - - - - - - 2005 Yamaha FJR1300
1993 Honda CBR600F2 - -1984 Yamaha FJ1100
Two different 1986 Yamaha FZX700S Fazers

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Re: Best Ural Tool Roll Ever?

Post by BinDerSmokDat » Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:06 pm

BinDerSmokDat wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 2:39 pm
I'm currently looking for a place to mount this.
After further looking, I discovered that the above extinguisher is smaller than I thought and only rated 1-A, 5-B:C.
I decided to get the same as in my kitchen which is rated at 1-A 10B:C.
The only difference is my kitchen one said "kitchen and garage" on the box and is silver and this one says "car and marine" and is white.
They weigh about 5 lbs with a 2.5lb charge and a Tundra weighs 22oz total with an unknown charge, probably about a pound or so.
I couldn't find a rating for the Tundra type extinguishers.

I checked the kitchen one, the tank won't fit in 3" PVC but the tank fits in 4" PVC with room to spare.
The handle and head do not clear 4" PVC, I'd have to adapt up to 6" after the tank or go 6" the whole length.
So I'm thinking I'll cement a cap to a length of 4" PVC, line the cap and pipe with thin closed-cell foam so it fits snug but can slide out.
I'll make the tube as tall as the tank and mount it on the inside of the trunk wall so the trunk lid holds it in the tube.
Open trunk, slide out but it can't take a beating and will be out of the weather.

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Re: Best Ural Tool Roll Ever?

Post by jaybird » Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:21 pm

Tomcatfixer wrote:
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I would disagree with the uselessness of the bumper myself, everything else, Yup 👍🏻

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Re: Best Ural Tool Roll Ever?

Post by BinDerSmokDat » Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:20 pm

windmill wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:48 am
jaybird wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:34 am
windmill wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:39 pm
I learned the hard way with starter fluid...
Glad you mentioned that.
Every other ride or so, someone would drown their bike and it would be hard to get it started.
Some of us run extended carb breathers, modified airboxes and other waterproofing tricks, which help but never eliminate the problem completely.
Sometimes the airbox had to come apart, plugs have to come out and be dried and possibly the bowls drained.
Even then it would take a lot of kicking and cranking to get started.

After on particularly bad dunking with sunlight fading fast we bemoaned the lack of starting fluid to help dry out the cylinders.

Ever since, I've carried a can in my trunk. Now just a shot into the airbox gets a bike going when previously the airbox and branch tubes had to come off. I've done my impression of a submarine a couple of times and the bike died in the water.
Typically we'd tow it out of the water, start disconnecting things, but now "shpritz n' go."

It really is a useful addition to any trunk that might dunk. :)
Do be cautious though. Sprayed through the airbox, you have a filter that mediates delivery downstream, so you shouldn't have a problem. If you pull plugs and give the cylinders/plug wells a shot to dry them, make sure you crank it with plugs OUT a few times to clear them before firing back up.

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Re: Best Ural Tool Roll Ever?

Post by BinDerSmokDat » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:07 pm

windmill wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:39 pm
I learned the hard way with starter fluid...
Glad you mentioned that.
Every other ride or so, someone would drown their bike and it would be hard to get it started.
Some of us run extended carb breathers, modified airboxes and other waterproofing tricks, which help but never eliminate the problem completely.
Sometimes the airbox had to come apart, plugs have to come out and be dried and possibly the bowls drained.
Even then it would take a lot of kicking and cranking to get started.

After on particularly bad dunking with sunlight fading fast we bemoaned the lack of starting fluid to help dry out the cylinders.

Ever since, I've carried a can in my trunk. Now just a shot into the airbox gets a bike going when previously the airbox and branch tubes had to come off. I've done my impression of a submarine a couple of times and the bike died in the water.
Typically we'd tow it out of the water, start disconnecting things, but now "shpritz n' go."

It really is a useful addition to any trunk that might dunk. :)
Do be cautious though. Sprayed through the airbox, you have a filter that mediates delivery downstream, so you shouldn't have a problem. If you pull plugs and give the cylinders/plug wells a shot to dry them, make sure you crank it with plugs OUT a few times to clear them before firing back up.

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Re: Best Ural Tool Roll Ever?

Post by Lofty » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:41 pm

ChiCom tool roll received. Ordered tan for the mil-spec look. Will transfer contents of my Husky brand tool bag and report back.

I also bought a Ushanka. In for a пенни, in for a фунт.

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Re: Best Ural Tool Roll Ever?

Post by Tomcatfixer » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:49 pm

Ordered tan for the mil-spec look.
I find the contrast with your satin burgundy bike finish delightful.

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2007 Honda VTR1000 FireStorm (Super Hawk in U.S.)
2001 Buell Blast! - - - - - - - 2005 Yamaha FJR1300
1993 Honda CBR600F2 - -1984 Yamaha FJ1100
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Re: Best Ural Tool Roll Ever?

Post by Lofty » Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:39 pm

Lofty wrote:
Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:41 pm
ChiCom tool roll received. Ordered tan for the mil-spec look. Will transfer contents of my Husky brand tool bag and report back.
No go. Not on the Gear Up, anyway.

Most, but not all of my Husky tool bag contents were [able to be] transferred to and arranged in the tool roll several times. It became increasingly obvious that the tool bag is the best solution for my mechanical load-out. More than a few bits (OEM large tire irons, bagged electronic spares, Aerostitch air pump) were larger than any pocket on the roll. No surprise that those items were out of scope.

I wanted to make the tool roll work, but doing so would require deleting just a few too many important spares, or carrying the surplus separately (thus defeating the purpose of this exercise). The tool bag requires no such compromises; it holds everything with a bit of room to spare. I like co-location and being able to see everything at a glance. This M.O. has proved itself more than twice during in-the-field repair work.

The ChiCom item may find duty on my Suzuki, which has a smaller tool inventory. Or it may be returned for a refund. TBD. I've no complaints about the build quality of the tool roll itself, vis-à-vis its pedigree. That said, the Husky bag is plainly more robust. Horses for courses.

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