Am I too Old?

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Am I too Old?

Post by :FI:Igor » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:39 pm

Am I too old? I’m joking with the girlfriend of my son’s friend. I say, ‘Well, Tonto, looks like we’re in a heap of trouble, Tonto responses, ‘What do you mean ‘WE’ paleface?” I get a plank stare!
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Re: Am I too Old?

Post by scottmastrocinque » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:55 pm

No. They are just members of the dumbest generation ever... :D



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Re: Am I too Old?

Post by RC20 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:31 pm

No, not all are dumb, like the rest of us, a mixed bag. They just had poor parents and did not get to grow up the way kids used to. Those who need to will figure it out or fail, just like us.

But yea, the Tonto thing is so far in the past it will only become topical if it catches attention.
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Re: Am I too Old?

Post by Robert Whitten » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:30 pm

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Post by snowymonkey » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:35 pm

Thanks RC20. I am a member of that generation..... but in no way do I claim it.
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Re: Am I too Old?

Post by Penrod » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:15 pm

"A fiery horse and the speed of light and a hearty High Ho Silver" at least approximately. Memory is getting old, but not entirely gone. Tonto's buddy.
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Are We / You Old ?

Post by VWNate1 » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:13 pm

Maybe yes but so what ? .

Every day above ground is one more precious gift not to be wasted ~ that's why it's called the 'present' =8-) .

I remember The Lone Ranger and his faithful side kick Tonto , not P.C. but I remember some good life lessons about friend ship, charity, self respect and so on that are no longer taught it seems .

My Foster boys always tell me I talk to and treat them different than anyone else but they al seem to like me pretty much and come to me when the road gets bumpy .
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Re: Am I too Old?

Post by sKiZo » Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:50 pm

Tonto? Stereotype maybe, but PC? Not today ...

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Re: Am I too Old?

Post by Snakeoil » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:53 pm

Wow, let's show how bone headed we are by stereotyping an entire generation.

I would not expect a millennial to know who the Lone Ranger and Tonto were anymore than I'd expect someone from our generation to know who the comic strip characters that had stopped being published by the time we could read and write. And if knowing about fictional character is a measure of intelligence, we've really slid off the tracks somewhere along the way.

There are a lot of smart kids out there. I worked with a lot of them. They never ceased to impress me. And they had many of the same values we grew up with. It's all a matter of upbringing and personal character. An arsehole, idiot, zealot, or wacko is pretty much the same regardless of the generation from which they came. All that changes is how they might look the tools of their trade and the topics of their interests.

I remember back in school, a teacher read to the class as short diatribe about the younger generation. It was full of stuff that sounded like it would have come directly out of our parents' mouths. Things about respect, laziness, disinterest in what was important, etc.. When he was done reading, he ask the class to guess who wrote it. The guesses were all over the place and I remember one student thinking it was from Hitler. Most guessed it was from some contemporary adult. It was written by some Roman during the time of Julius Caesar. It drove home a point I never forgot.

I've got another. Friend worked as a pharmacist in a privately owned Drug Store. Remember those. This was back in the 80's. The have a teenage, Miss Cutesyface working the register at the counter. Crosby, Stills and Nash had not released anything since sometime in the early 70's. But in '82 they release Southern Cross and it was a hit on all the stations. Now Ray was also a musician. Damn good singer and virtuoso guitar player. I had been playing music with him since the early 70's and would later run the sound for his last band. He's filling little bottles with pills when Southern Cross comes on the radio. When it finishes, Miss Cutesyface says, "Wow, they are really good. Have they ever done anything else?". Ray was apoplectic. He ranted about her for a month after to anyone who would listen. He could not conceive of anyone not knowing who Crosby, Stills and Nash were. But during one of his rants, someone we knew who was a teacher said his student all knew who John, George, Paul and Ringo were as performers, but none of them knew that they were also The Beatles.
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Re: Am I too Old?

Post by cheeseheadmike » Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:50 am

I can’t name a single ‘Urban Contemporary’ or ‘Country Pop’ artist, anymore than a young person could come up with someone such as Link Wray, Kris Kristofferson, or Dick Dale from my generation. I do recall Bob Dylan going out of his way to be a dick when he was starting out. Jim Morrison pi$$ed off my folks for his on stage antics.

Maybe it’s all cyclical.
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Re: Am I too Old?

Post by Lofty » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:02 pm

Snakeoil wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:53 pm
...if knowing about fictional characters is a measure of intelligence, we've really slid off the tracks somewhere along the way.
I don't disagree, Rob, but I'd also say that context matters.

My high school AP English course exposed us to a broad swath of classic literature, about which we had to be pretty conversant in order to pass the recurring quizzes and tests. Being able to quote Dickens or Shakespeare at length, accurately, arguably is a good metric of learning. Fagin, Cassius, Havisham, Hamlet. All significant members of the corresponding narratives. All quite fictional. And all likely beyond the capability of the average fan of DC Comics movies to appreciate in any substantive sense.
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Re: Am I too Old?

Post by Penrod » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:41 pm

Ah yes, Miss Havisham, "the strangest woman I had ever seen, or ever shall see." Pip, Great Expectations.
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Re: Am I too Old?

Post by tgtrotter » Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:08 pm

Old ?
Back in the late 90s our neighbor teen said " What do you mean Ozzy was in a band Black Sabbath ? He's always been Ozzy"

Dick ?
Paul Simon was invited to meet and record with Bob Dylan at a Greenwich Village studio. When introduced Bob said " Who's this nobody ? Get him out of here." Paul Simon replied eff you and they never spoke to each other again.

Wisdom ?
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Any of the above I've only heard and cannot verify. But I do know this joke is true.

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Post by VWNate1 » Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:35 pm

Our Foster boys never cease to amaze me with the cultural things they know, mostly musical in nature but also literature here and there .

You'd never guess it by the way they remain glued to the T.V. watching to - day's inane you tube videos but like most children, they tend to soak up more than us old farts realize .
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Re: Am I too Old?

Post by Snakeoil » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:50 pm

Of course you are 100% correct, Lofty. I was referring to less signicant characters like Dagwood. But then again, to me and most my age, if you talk about a Dagwood sandwich, everyone knows what you mean.

It's all relative.
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