Long trip Preparation advice

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Re: Long trip Preparation advice

Post by Salja03 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:59 am

RC20 wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:07 pm
Spare control cables can usually be routed alongside/attached to their in-service counterparts. Carrying spares in this pre-installed manner can expedite side-of-the-road replacement labor. It's a popular modus operandi in the dual sport community, and it's something I've already done on my DR650.
Agree4d on the above though maybe not strung.

Small digital multi meter (and know how to use it) - 15 ft of #16 wire. The Mini Booster Battery system. Crimp terminal and tool to crimp.

Air pump, possibly a spark plug type. Pressure gauge, maybe two.

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Will definitely do the cable runs - did that and it was very helpful in Africa before. I’m an ex electronics engineer, so multimeter, etc is all fine, along with diagrams. Am going to do a trial run of tents, etc before the trip. Do I really need the mini booster though with a kick start.
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Re: Long trip Preparation advice

Post by WEGUNTER » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:48 am

I would reconsider hauling a trailer (although you might look at that one wheel model Charlie CT uses). Overloading the Ural and hauling a trailer both bring problems. I think the key to success is to travel light as possible.

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Re: Long trip Preparation advice

Post by Philippe_782003 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:44 am

From my previous experiences (Irland, south of Italy, Paris-Paris via Istanbul, Tbilissi, Erevan, Volga river up to Kazan and then Moscow) I will take more oil (Ural needs high temperature oil), brake pads, mainly for the pusher. A u-joint is small and cheap so I will add it.
Making sure that you can do all standard works alone and with only the tools you bring is a must.
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Re: Long trip Preparation advice

Post by Manscout » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:59 am

Salja03 wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:33 pm
A clutch kit is quite expensive - how long do they normally last in general? Ie. How many miles under normal wear and tear, or under heavy load?
Honestly, Whatever Fran got is what you will likely get. There is not much, if any, difference in the the clutch between his and yours. He meticulously broke his rig in properly, almost never went over 55mph, and always did things with longevity in mind. That being said with your trip in mind, I'd say 25,000 - 40,000km for a clutch is what you can expect.
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Re: Long trip Preparation advice

Post by WEGUNTER » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:15 pm

Mountain travel with an over loaded bike will shorten the life span of that clutch. it will be the splines that give way first not necessarily the clutch material. Give all your splines (wheels, trans and final drive) a good greasing with moly and this should help. look at the ride report from Laughing Buddha. His ride was from St Pete FL to Fairbanks AK and back. Only issue he had was final drive bolts.

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Re: Long trip Preparation advice

Post by rivers » Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:42 pm

Salja03 wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:59 am
Do I really need the mini booster though with a kick start.
Unless you're running a magneto ign system, the kick starter is a false sense of security if your battery is dead. You can kick till your leg falls off if you don't have anything providing a spark to the plugs. :(
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Re: Long trip Preparation advice

Post by Peter Pan » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:18 pm

Well Joe Rivers, that lack of battery for spark can be overcome with a simple 9V battery as Van Gobium uses to show. Once the engine runs, battery gets juice.
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Re: Long trip Preparation advice

Post by MonkeysUncle » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:34 pm

I'm wondering if an EFI 'dead battery' bike will start using the 9V?
Wouldn't the fuel pump require a little more juice?
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Re: Long trip Preparation advice

Post by Mr Wazzock » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:46 pm

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Re: Long trip Preparation advice

Post by rivers » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:52 pm

Yeah the 9v jumper batt trick will work on the older pre EFI bikes. On the other hand computer controlled EFI units are pretty persnickety about batt voltage and I wouldn't think it work on an EFI motor. I don't know that as fact but I wouldn't count on a 9v jumper getting her lit?
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Re: Long trip Preparation advice

Post by Mr Wazzock » Wed Sep 18, 2019 3:03 pm

I remember now, the Gobium jumper equivalent for EFI is to put 12V onto the alternator red wire - but this is more hot-wiring (keyless start), still needs battery power, as said because of the pump. Also doubtless the ECU's will have a minimum supply Voltage threshold below which they won't work. :(
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Re: Long trip Preparation advice

Post by Peter Pan » Wed Sep 18, 2019 4:47 pm

I remember Fran has a pocket size jumper battery...damn it, that little bugger put to crank Pferdinand.....have to look it up in my telephone
Sophie Travelair = Patrol 2013
8 weeks 12.000km Oregon-Alaska-Oregon
With a DIY foam air filter the rig runs well even in tropical rain = :moto:
Final drives: 1. at 5000km, 2. at 34.000km(+friction plates) 3. at 42.386km
transmission: 1. 40.000km. 2. installed
Engine: 1. 43.388km crank replacement: Back on the road since 23.Okt.2019 :party:

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Re: Long trip Preparation advice

Post by Salja03 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:46 pm

Manscout wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:59 am
Salja03 wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:33 pm
A clutch kit is quite expensive - how long do they normally last in general? Ie. How many miles under normal wear and tear, or under heavy load?
Honestly, Whatever Fran got is what you will likely get. There is not much, if any, difference in the the clutch between his and yours. He meticulously broke his rig in properly, almost never went over 55mph, and always did things with longevity in mind. That being said with your trip in mind, I'd say 25,000 - 40,000km for a clutch is what you can expect.
Thanks, that helps. I’ll put a clutch kit to one side as a package to send if I need it. Or more specifically a spline kit I’d guess. Is there someone who has a list of the parts that might likely fail in this scenario? Ie, splines, etc to replace?

Or perhaps someone who has a 2019 full service manual with exploded diagram? I am mechanically very competent having rebuilt engines and transmissions on a couple of bikes now.

I have a ‘full’ toolkit with a good set of tools for anything I may want to do on the bike.
Riding from Phoenix, Arizona

Current rides:
Ural 2019 Gear-up in Burgundy Satin (USA)
2018 Indian Roadmaster (USA)
2016 Africa Twin (USA)
2008 KTM250SXF (USA)
2004 Honda Goldwing GL1800 (UK)
2000 Africa Twin 750 (French)
2000 Africa Twin 750 (UK)
The wife says I have too many bikes - I can’t figure out what the problem is...
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Re: Long trip Preparation advice

Post by Peter Pan » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:52 pm

here is Fran's little helper.
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Sophie Travelair = Patrol 2013
8 weeks 12.000km Oregon-Alaska-Oregon
With a DIY foam air filter the rig runs well even in tropical rain = :moto:
Final drives: 1. at 5000km, 2. at 34.000km(+friction plates) 3. at 42.386km
transmission: 1. 40.000km. 2. installed
Engine: 1. 43.388km crank replacement: Back on the road since 23.Okt.2019 :party:

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Re: Long trip Preperation advice

Post by Salja03 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:48 pm

Peter Pan wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:52 pm
me too, wanted to recommend Fran and Yvonne's "Big trip" for tip resource. If I am home you may come by in Central Valley Costa Rica. Perhaps again for screwing the screws of the rig, like they had to do. Their rig Pferdinand came after 39.000km to a dead stop only 25km from my farm. All good as long your rope is longer then Fran's... :shock:
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Current rides:
Ural 2019 Gear-up in Burgundy Satin (USA)
2018 Indian Roadmaster (USA)
2016 Africa Twin (USA)
2008 KTM250SXF (USA)
2004 Honda Goldwing GL1800 (UK)
2000 Africa Twin 750 (French)
2000 Africa Twin 750 (UK)
The wife says I have too many bikes - I can’t figure out what the problem is...
Countries travelled so far: 45
Continents travelled so far: 5
So many more to see - but for now the USA is to be explored...

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