Wow! An Electric Ural prototype!!!

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Re: Wow! An Electric Ural prototype!!!

Post by MartyL » Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:29 pm

P.S. They might as well ditch the current FD design and just use a belt drive.
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Re: Wow! An Electric Ural prototype!!!

Post by Tomcatfixer » Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:31 pm

Dry weight is 822 lbs. I wonder how much it weighs with a full battery? :?
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Re: Wow! An Electric Ural prototype!!!

Post by 54vintage » Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:33 pm

It would be great if they could pull it off, but I have a sneaking suspicion market demand would not be great enough to go into production. Which is a shame because I really think EVs are the future of transportation......at least for commuting.
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Re: Wow! An Electric Ural prototype!!!

Post by 54vintage » Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:35 pm

Tomcatfixer wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:31 pm
Dry weight is 822 lbs. I wonder how much it weighs with a full battery? :?
Can't quite remember how much electrons weigh.....probably puts it well over the max weight :wink:
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Re: Wow! An Electric Ural prototype!!!

Post by INSUBORDINATOR » Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:48 pm

Is the purpose of the big ugly barn door side fairings to hide the "top secret" propulsion unit - or is it a heat-sink/solar panel combo ?
I would rather see the mechanics of the machine exposed, & wondered if the motor & transmission unit are hidden because "embarrassingly small".
I would not mind seeing some battery or motor bulge in place of the original engine - instead of the incongruous & hideous looking flat fairing.
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Re: Wow! An Electric Ural prototype!!!

Post by Yoggie » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:23 pm

I really like it! At one point I was seriously considering trying to put this together myself but it would just take way too much time so its cool to see Ural looking at making this!

Seriously though, has no one else thought about adding a generator to the side car??? If they added the ability to charge with 220 while driving, (or better yet, direct DC while driving) you could have the first hybrid motorcycle! If you get really creative, you could turn the trunk into an engine compartment and keep the sidecar seat open. Start the engine if you are going over 100 miles, keep it off for short distances. Just imagine the wicked NACA ducts you could put on the side of the tub for cooling and air intakes! Granted, all that weight and complexity will reduce the electric only range and would take away a large part of it being a much simpler drive train, but still a cool possibility.
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Re: Wow! An Electric Ural prototype!!!

Post by Yoggie » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:54 pm

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There appears to be a battery box added to the bottom of the sidecar and it looks like there is plenty of room in front of and behind that box to add more batteries. I wonder what the main concerns would be with adding more batteries there? Weight balance, cost, overall weight? Based on the specs, the rig can hold about 500 lbs. It would be cool to give two options, one with the lighter/short range batteries for people who want to carry a lot (lots of camping gear and heavy riders) or an option for a bigger battery but 50 lbs less carrying capacity.

Another idea, Zero has a hot swappable battery option for some bikes. Most of the batteries on the Ural would be integrated but it would be cool to see a slot(s) in the trunk or on the side car sides where additional batteries could be stored, connected, or swapped in as you need them. As someone else mentioned, put them in a cool jerrycan style container, and you would keep a lot of the looks all while really confusing people that try to figure out how the bike works!
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Re: Wow! An Electric Ural prototype!!!

Post by BigJames » Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:48 pm

I was thinking small generator in a case shaped like a jerry can...seems appropriate.
Of course I am on the waiting list... I want a black one. I seem to have luck with black Urals...
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Re: Wow! An Electric Ural prototype!!!

Post by snowymonkey » Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:31 pm

Could raise the sidecar up to the height of a gear up sidecar and easily add another large tray of batteries.

With the extra battery weight it would probably keep most of the “low center of gravity” feel.


I also am not a fan of the looks of the motor area. The new school looking parts don’t mesh well with the old school look for me. Of course if this actually went into production it would probably look much more refined.
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Re: Wow! An Electric Ural prototype!!!

Post by chaos2 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:09 pm

Good Spark has a nice review on it: http://goodsparkgarage.com/electric-ura ... oJpmFqF5Ws
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Re: Wow! An Electric Ural prototype!!!

Post by Roadking » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:39 pm

Solar attachment on the sidecar rack?😀
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Re: Wow! An Electric Ural prototype!!!

Post by redtails » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:56 pm

On wait list, my wife is excited about it already.
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Re: Wow! An Electric Ural prototype!!!

Post by Birdy » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:29 pm

Well you know what this will mean though...no more Oil Post. :D
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Re: Wow! An Electric Ural prototype!!!

Post by donotwantapickle » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:43 pm

How about mounting the motors in the hubs for 3 wheel drive and more space for batteries.
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Re: Wow! An Electric Ural prototype!!!

Post by GHGoodwin » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:55 pm

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE ---- put the chrager input somewhere whher it won't collect water.
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