Help identifying my bike

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Re: Help identifying my bike

Post by propwash » Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:06 am

Well, as expected, quite a variation.
Maybe easier to decide what is common with M63s...........
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Re: Help identifying my bike

Post by GregAus » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:09 am

Photo of 1966 M-63 with M-62 style mudguards
M-63 1966 LF.jpg
Photo of 1971 M-63, white banded tank, later mudguards and later taillight.
M-63 1971.jpg
A UK market Cossack, probably an M-66
cossack1.JPG
M-62 for comparison, longer plungers than M-72 and first use of rubber seat suspension.
M-62 1964.jpg
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Re: Help identifying my bike

Post by propwash » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:37 am

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Re: RE: Re: Help identifying my bike

Post by ndanl » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:18 am

GregAus wrote:The alternator output as standard with a Relay Regulator PP-302 will output a nominal 6V. If it is in good condition you can use a 12V regulator to output 12V. Most people use a H-D or VW regulator for their 12V generators and hide it in the Bakelite box of the PP-302. Alternatively, if you've got the skills you can make an electronic regulator for either 6 or 12V. http://vurd.name/2014/06/28/электронный ... ор-рр-302/ use google chrome or similar to translate.
propwash wrote: The following things are incorrect for a M63
- fuel tank
- carbs
- tranny
- small things, like regulator, brake switch and possibly, do I see spring under seat?

Hard to see all from the pictures.

The M63 would have the banded tank, K301s, a tranny with integrated metal air filter, rear brake switch on the brake pedal shaft, rubber cushioned seat and a big electro mechanical regulator.
Does the engine have a filter in front? The M63 did not.
Early M-63 did not have the banded tank, they continued using the tank from the M-62 as on this bike. Very early M-63 also used the M-62 mudguards (fenders) with a different rear guard mounting system. Prototype M-63 even had rear shock mounts similar to the BMW /2 and early brochures showed the bike with those shock mounts. The 1969 M-63 brought into Australia had these tanks (mostly), the 1971 models had the banded tanks (mostly).

The generator should have on the front cover -
Г 414 6В65ВТ
ГОСТ. 3940-XX (for a year)
СДЕЛАНO В СССР
In the middle should be the manufacture, in my case ОЗАТЭ.
On the rear are the letters Ш & Я.

The plate on the headstock should have -
IMZ logo in a circle
ГОСТ 7635-59 (Standard built to)
МОДЕЛЬ М-63 (Model)
ГОД ВЫПУСКА (Year of Manufacture)
МОТОЦИКЛ № (Frame Number)
ДВИГАТЕЛЬ № (Engine Number)
РАБ.ОБЪЕМ 649 cm3 (Working Volume)
СДЕЛАНО В СССР (Made in USSR)

New plate from http://www.oldtimergarage.eu/catalog/pr ... ts_id=1810 Aluminium, not the original steel.
Thank you for the input, I managed to read the plate, indeed I could see the IMZ logo in a circle, also I could read the year which is 1967 and the model which is M-63, this is great, thank you, I also have the frame and the engine number.

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Re: Help identifying my bike

Post by chang jiang bill » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:30 pm

It appears to have an early Dnepr fuel tank. An early Ural tank would have concentric circles on the knee pads, very much like an early BMW knee pad.

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Re: Help identifying my bike

Post by chang jiang bill » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:40 pm

My 1974 m66 has an identical frame. I always thought these early frames were more robust and nicer looking then the later versions.

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Re: Help identifying my bike

Post by INSUBORDINATOR » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:59 pm

The long Aluminum lever on the transmission is EXACTLY the same one as a Chinese CJ LONG REVERSE LEVER I own, & the Transmission resembles older CJ'sI have seen. HMMMM ? Any Chinese characters stamped on it anywhere ? Could it be a OHV CJ ?
CJ parts are reasonable & obtainable from a few good Ebay vendors.
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Re: Help identifying my bike

Post by brianural » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:40 am

propwash wrote:Image
I've seen this bike in person, hmmm wonder where that was
2011 HD RGU
2003 Honda VTX1800 - sold
2005 Honda VTX1300 - sold
Bunch of other metric bikes for last 45 years
"1966 titled" Dnepr MT-11 (reality is a 80-90's)
1956 IMZ M72 bought in pieces, working on build
1967 KMZ MB-750

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Re: Help identifying my bike

Post by Vladimir[Oppozit.ru] » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:29 pm

To restore Ural you will need this:
http://krueger1.chat.ru/moto/oilseal.html

If really interesting, then write the numbers on the frame and engine
Garage interpritation of russian saying: "Eyes are afraid - Ural rides.", "Everything leaks, everything repears." :)
"Sinyaya Chayka" (Blue Gull) Ural 8.103.10 (1993?)
"Masha" Yamaha XT225 (1997)
"Zub" Suzuki DR 200 (2002)

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