Back In The Saddle

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Re: Back In The Saddle

Post by 4REICH » Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:06 am

What cruising speed are you shooting for? I came close to ordering the 5speed conversion gearbox this year but decided the solo runs great up to about 63 mph. Bought a permanent magnet charging system, crank ignition and a 5speed kickstart gearbox for the slash 2 conversion instead. Next year the Ural may get the 5th gear. Some study should go into which ratios to select. I should probably join the BMW forum but I figure many of the members here are knowledgeable and appreciate airheads.
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R60/6 Cruising Speed

Post by VWNate1 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:09 pm

This one is a 1975 so it has a five speed box but -no- kick starter (!) the first Moto I've ever had without one .

Anyways, it's quite happy to haul my 240# bum along at 75 ~ 85 MPH without laboring although it gets a little buzzier than I like .

My Ural 650's wouldn't do well with five sped boxes if top gear was any higher ratio than the stock four speed boxe's is ~ don't beat your poor Ural to death .

I miss my 1968 BMW R60US but _not_ the crappy brakes ~ I couldn't lock either wheel and I felt that to be dangerous as I liked riding it much faster than I rode my 'bottle cap' brake drums '94 Ural 650 Tourist Solo .
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Re: R60/6 Cruising Speed

Post by 4REICH » Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:09 pm

VWNate1 wrote:
Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:09 pm

? Has anyone here ever fitted a five speed tranny to a Ural ? .

I'm thinking it would make a Solo much more enjoyable to ride .
My Ural 650's wouldn't do well with five sped boxes if top gear was any higher ratio than the stock four speed boxe's is ~ don't beat your poor Ural to death .
I have a handful of bikes for different riding conditions and never exceed the limitations of my ST
I was referring to the various ads like these on eBay some offering custom ratios for Ural 750s https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gearbox-5-spee ... Sw4A5Yt51X
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Five Speed Box

Post by VWNate1 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:56 pm

O.K., that's nice, it splits the ratios and retains the same 1:1 top gear ratio so it won't increase top speed, it just makes for easier riding with more gears to better match RPM's & loads/speeds .

It seems a little bit $pendy to me but maybe not .
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Re: Back In The Saddle

Post by 4REICH » Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:05 pm

I wouldn't consider $535 shipped to Nevada for a rebuilt gearbox with extra 5th gear unfairly priced. It seems my local speed limits are suspiciously set outside the comfortable rpm range, I'm either revving or at the bottom of gears to be within legal parameters. I believe if an individual refuses to obey the simplistic rules of the road that is an indicator of an underlying disregard for other laws and wonder what other deviant habits these blatant outlaws think they're getting away with.
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Speed Limits

Post by VWNate1 » Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:05 pm

I'm more or less with you there, I'm told I'm a fast rider but I know many with whom I cannot keep up and feel safe .

Speed limits are maybe not always fair, when the road is clear I often ingore them, not so much when astride two wheels though .

My personal gripe is those who refuse to make full stops at stop signs ~ a real problem in my block, one blew past me going at least 45MPH this afternoon ~ good thing I wasn't turning into a driveway when she did this .
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Ready To Ride !

Post by VWNate1 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:37 pm

Sunday is both my birthday and the annual 'Best Ride By A Dam Site' ~ the Vintage British Bike ride @ Hansen Dam in Lakeview Terrace Ca.

I plan to ride my Beemer and so got up early this morning, de greased it, w@$#ed it and then w@*ed it, looks pretty spiffy to me .

I now have the correct original handlebars and had them re chromed but I miss placed the box full of new Magura grips and rubber cable covers etc., etc. so I guess I'll have to ride it with the nasty and FUGLY narrow European bars that eat the living crap out of my old beat up shoulders.....
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Back In The Saddle

Post by VWNate1 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:09 am

Well ;

Here we are a year later and I'm still riding this classic near new Beemer and wishing I had my Solo sT between my knees instead....

I have a 1996 Ural 650 Solo, maybe I can get it running and find a fuel tank for it, if that makes me happier I can sell the Beemer for a handy profit .
-Nate
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Re: Back In The Saddle

Post by Mr Wazzock » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:19 am

Sounds like a plan. :)
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Re: Back In The Saddle

Post by VWNate1 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:02 am

Stand by please......
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Re: Back In The Saddle

Post by MojaveSidecar » Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:49 pm

Hi Nate

Standing by... but when you return.. I am really curious about why you seem to prefer a Ural solo to a BMW.

Based on my recent road trip to Medford on my 2011 Gobi, and experiencing the level of effort required to run a hack at freeway speeds into a head wind, I am thinking that a solo would be a better companion to my 06 G/U rather than another sidecar.

I have owned a couple of airheads, a 82 R-100RT and a 92 R100GS but for some reason I think I would prefer a Ural solo instead, especially if it had the 5 speed aftermarket gearbox added.

I never really bonded with the Beemers for some reason. I do have a couple of DRZ400s that I need to get running and a KLR/Enduro sidecar in parts plus access to another KLR sitting in a field in Washington state, but for some reason I seem to be drawn to an ST. My goal would be to learn how to take the Urals apart down to the very last nut and bolt and put them back together... then head off to see the world.

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Re: Back In The Saddle

Post by VWNate1 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:09 pm

I've tried driving a hack rig and didn't like it one bit .

Maybe an articulated rig would be okay but to this date only two wheels moves my soul .

The question of why a Ural instead of a Beemer is a very good one indeed, I'm not sure quite why .

I rode /2's (four of them) and whilst pleasant, they were basic plodders and had poor brakes to boot .

Then I tried /5's, this was close, very close so I hunted down a raggedy old 1972 short wheel base R75/5 and that was gold ~ it had all the power I needed (I don't like high speed, I just like getting up to 70 MPH quickly) , it shifted really well and had better drum brakes than the /6 discs that came after .

My first Ural was a battered and unloved 1994 first year of import Tourist 650 with telescopic forks ~ it was slow and shifted very deliberately and had illegal non DOT compliant STAMPED SHEET METAL BRAKE DRUMS :shock: but for some odd reason I loved it and rode it WFO quite a bit, in my beloved canyons and mountains and zizzing (65 MPH :roll: ) across the Mojave Desert, into and well past Death Valley, there's something I like about the Ural's solid smooth pace as it takes me wherever I need to go in comfort, style and reliability .

My '94 had 19" wheels and could be leaned farther over in the twisties than my /5 Beemers could, go figure .

Your question sounds like you want to couple a Solo to a tub, that's a very bad idea because the leading link forks help the handling .

I hope this helps ? if not ask again and I'll try to make more sense next time .

It's hot as blazes out and I'm buzzing 'round all day on my 1970 Honda CT90k2 people keep telling me they've not seen one in twenty years, I see them all the time as I have several and need to up fix and sell off the extras .
-Nate
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Re: Back In The Saddle

Post by MojaveSidecar » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:58 pm

Hi Nate

I have an 06 GearUp that I really love driving around Wrightwood. I thought I would like a newer 2019 GearUp for touring longer distances so I sold my 11 Gobi to my brother-in-law in Medford in anticipation of ordering a 2019 later this year. The 4 day ride up to Medford on the Gobi opened my eyes to the idea that long distance solo touring on a sidecar is probably not what I want to be doing after all. Instead, I am thinking about adding a 2010-2013 Ural ST solo in lieu of acquiring a 2019 sidecar.

I have a DRZ400 for local trails, but I am looking for something to do 80/20 % pavement/dirt roads common in the high desert. I like the idea of having 2 Urals which would simplify parts/supplies mechanical knowledge etc. I would have no plans of ever adding a chair to the ST solo.

Although, I could have any motorcycle I want, my basic requirement for the new solo would something that would be enjoyable to ride on the Angeles Crest Highway and that would be comfortable cruising the local freeways at 70+ mph, but is also reliable and simple to work on. At my age and size, I have no desire/skills to travel faster than the posted ACH speed limits. I would probably only be putting about 1-2k miles a year on this bike and would it would be in storage when we have ice and snow on the ground up here at 6000" elevation.
The 2 Urals, my GearUp and the other an ST solo, plus the DRZ would seem to be all the motorcycles I would need in my retiring years going forward.

One option I had considered instead of an ST solo was another BMW airhead, but I never really bonded with my BMWs. I don't know why, thats why I was curious about your feelings BMW versus Ural solo. Uralista's, like IvanRider that have solos really seem to like them.

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Re: Back In The Saddle

Post by Kthulu » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:03 am

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Ural Solo

Post by VWNate1 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:34 pm

O.K. Randy ;

It sounds like you're on the right track .

As I age out I ride a lot slower than I used to but be aware that a Ural Solo with 18" wheels the exhaust touches the pavement on normal in town cornering @ 20 MPH or so and it's worse on the ACH .

*DO* search out and buy a Solo, just try to find one with 19" wheels or have some new hoops laced on or buy used 19" wheels, etc.....

Ride hard, far and wide but always : SAFELY ! :mrgreen: .
-Nate
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