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Hy-per lube, use it?

Postby Emoore » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:57 pm

Looking to add a bit of Hy-per lube to my next oil change. The back says to replace one quart in a 4-5 quart system, ours is a 2 quat (1.998 liter (about)) So I guess my question is how much do I replace?

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Re: RE: Hy-per lube, use it?

Postby dirt » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:58 pm

Emoore wrote:Looking to add a bit of Hy-per lube to my next oil change. The back says to replace one quart in a 4-5 quart system, ours is a 2 quat (1.998 liter (about)) So I guess my question is how much do I replace?

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Re: Hy-per lube, use it?

Postby TerryG » Sat Aug 05, 2017 3:41 pm

My 650 manual reads - 55.6 oz oil + 12 oz Hyper-Lube. 750s don't have any spec for Hyper-Lube.
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Re: Hy-per lube, use it?

Postby BillyG » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:01 pm

You don't need HyperLube. Not back then...and not now.
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Re: Hy-per lube, use it?

Postby Lee Pape » Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:50 am

Good old Ural Snot! CMSI recommended it when they sold 650 Urals. They wanted us to put it in the engine, transmission and the finial drive. When the 750's came out they dropped the use of Hy-per lube. If you want to use it I'll give you a tip: set it out in the hot sun for several hours before you try an pour it out. I still have a half of a bottle left from my 650 days. It is getting to be an antique it is almost 20 years old now.
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Re: Hy-per lube, use it?

Postby Doc » Mon Aug 07, 2017 2:22 am

Just switch over to REDLINE for engine, tranny, and FD.
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Re: Hy-per lube, use it?

Postby hotflash44 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:59 pm

Docs,got the most full proof and proven total oil replacement. I have Redline in all spots,beware its not cheap but whats your ride and piece of mind worth. Just drink a couple less Starbucks! Those other oil additives remind me of 1965, STP, Motor Honey ,were proven over time to be worthless.Redline synthetic oils are Ester based, so they wont leak like some other syn oil. :cheers:
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Re: Hy-per lube, use it?

Postby darrynl » Thu Aug 24, 2017 5:39 am

Can't go wrong with Redline synthetic oil. It is worth the extra cost.

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Re: Hy-per lube, use it?

Postby rivers » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:33 pm

BillyG wrote:You don't need HyperLube. Not back then...and not now.

Certainly not now. Modern gear lubes(quality brands dino or syn) are highly formulated for the task. For normal use no need for any extra thick, syrupy, sticky goop. Sure the syrup that sticks to the gears looks cool in the ads but the last thing you want is overly sticky gear/bearing lube. Gear lube has a two part function: A/ to reduce friction/heat created by the metal bits rubbing together. B/ be thin enough to flow easily in/out so the heat can easily be replaced with cooler lube to continue the heat removing process. Keeping in mind it's function isn't just to lube the gear teeth, it's also gotta get in/out of the related bearings and bushings. Run the best quality lube avail that meets factory spec you can afford and you're as golden as it gets.
Bah humbug on syrup additives :(
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Re: RE: Re: Hy-per lube, use it?

Postby Emoore » Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:48 pm

rivers wrote:
BillyG wrote:You don't need HyperLube. Not back then...and not now.

Certainly not now. Modern gear lubes(quality brands dino or syn) are highly formulated for the task. For normal use no need for any extra thick, syrupy, sticky goop. Sure the syrup that sticks to the gears looks cool in the ads but the last thing you want is overly sticky gear/bearing lube. Gear lube has a two part function: A/ to reduce friction/heat created by the metal bits rubbing together. B/ be thin enough to flow easily in/out so the heat can easily be replaced with cooler lube to continue the heat removing process. Keeping in mind it's function isn't just to lube the gear teeth, it's also gotta get in/out of the related bearings and bushings. Run the best quality lube avail that meets factory spec you can afford and you're as golden as it gets.
Bah humbug on syrup additives :(
And yet someone post a comment about using Lucas oil additive and everyone thumbs up..... Same kind of stuff different packaging. If there was no bennifit to it, why does it sell so well....hype can only get you so far. I believe Raceway States on there website that they use Hyper lube in every oil change and has for years....hype?

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Re: Hy-per lube, use it?

Postby Snakeoil » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:42 am

This is a quote about oil additive made by the chief petroleum engineer at Cenpeco Oil. I had called him to ask if he'd ever heard of Hyperlube since my 650 came with a bottle of the stuff in a box of other spares.

"We tested just about every oil additive on the market for effectiveness. So do nothing, some actually degrade the oil you are adding it to. So far, we've never found an additive that makes a measurable improvement. And, if we could buy an additive that would improve the characteristics of our oil rather than spend gobs of money on research and developement, don't you think that we or any other oil company would do that?"

The last line was a hard one to argue with.
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Re: Hy-per lube, use it?

Postby tgtrotter » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:19 am

A few years back on my '04 HD I had somehow used Redline when changing out my tranny fluid. One day after hard racing at highway speeds i parked in my garage and started checking the oils. The hot tranny fluid was all foam. Like a fluffy whipped cream. I thought oh shoot and went to the dealer to buy factory oil to replace it. The next morning draining the cold tranny oil it was a normal red clear liquid but I still put the factory oil in. Months later when purchasing from the dealer more factory oil I told the parts Mongrel my experience. He claimed Redline is formulated to foam like that for a fuller more even distribution. $#!+ if I know but i decided to stay with what the builder suggests for oils. I do know I have used Diesel API oils on occasion on other bikes and have never had oil issues. Probably because I change on a regular and as needed basis. ie extreme duty, xxx many months or oil looks, smells or feels tacky. Have tried but never sold on any honey, slick or miracle oils. But still today in the back of my mind that foamy coverage of Redlline, if true haunts my sensibility. :blink: :wacko: :-?
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Re: Hy-per lube, use it?

Postby gobium » Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:20 am

BillyG wrote:You don't need HyperLube. Not back then...and not now.

Some ural owner is nut, my buddy use best synthetic oil and Hyperlube :lol:
At 35000 his front main bearing went bad!

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Re: Hy-per lube, use it?

Postby stagewex » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:20 am

STP-Mentality, making your feel better about a particular product. And if it does... great.
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Re: RE: Re: Hy-per lube, use it?

Postby Emoore » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:26 pm

gobium wrote:
BillyG wrote:You don't need HyperLube. Not back then...and not now.

Some ural owner is nut, my buddy use best synthetic oil and Hyperlube
At 35000 his front main bearing went bad!
Can't really say it was the HyperLube, it is a Ural after all......

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