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Synthetic oil?

Postby uralvt » Tue May 31, 2016 8:28 pm

I am a new owner of a 2002 tourist. Learning they are work. Tons of fun as well. My question: i have read some of the posts and it seems as though the red line is the best oil to use. So do i use the regular 20w50 in engine and trans or the synthetic. Or how about a blend of the two to keep costs down a bit. Thanks all and look forward to getting to know you

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Re: Synthetic oil?

Postby harryball » Tue May 31, 2016 8:40 pm

These rigs do fine on quality conventional oil FOR MOTORCYCLES, don't use the car stuff. That said, I run Valvoline 4T full synthetic motorcycle oil in my 2008 Tourist and the 2010 Patrol. I do not see it as that much more expensive and I understand synthetic oil is "controlled" conventional oil where all of the molecules are the same (in theory) vs. conventional oil where many molecules are not "perfect". I figure for the price difference, why not give it the oil where every molecule meets spec? As for leaks... the 2008 Tourist was not leaking in October 2015 when I bought it, I changed the oil the first week I had it, now a few thousand miles later, still no leaks. For the Patrol, it was dropping oil pretty bad at first, after 1000 miles is still leaks but now leaks less than when I got it.

One thing synthetic oil does do is clean. If you have gummed up crud preventing an oil leak, synthetic may just clear that out and start a leak. But the "leak" was there before you added synthetic oil, just stopped up.

This should go in the oil threads, maybe an admin will move it.

Also... ask 3 Ural owners about oil and you're going to get 6 opinions.
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Re: Synthetic oil?

Postby chaos2 » Tue May 31, 2016 9:12 pm

harryball wrote: ask 3 Ural owners about oil and you're going to get 6 opinions.

and, oddly enough, each Ural will run better than the other one :lol:
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Re: Synthetic oil?

Postby camo » Tue May 31, 2016 10:54 pm

i always thought synthetic was a no no for ball bearings ? too slippery ?
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Re: Synthetic oil?

Postby INSUBORDINATOR » Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:39 am

I run Mobil 1 in my 02 tourist engine, tranny, & synthetic gear oil in my Final drive. Also use Mobil 1 in my Royal Enfield, & Automobiles (in proper weights) No problems & great service from all. It's cheapest @ wal mart.
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Re: Synthetic oil?

Postby Lee Pape » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:20 am

I run the cheapest diesel grade dino oil that I can find in 20W-50. The diesel grade used to have more zinc and other good stuff in it.
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Re: Synthetic oil?

Postby Dniprovod » Wed Jun 01, 2016 6:38 pm

My personal choice is Liqui Moly with Molybdenum. This "Molybdenum" proved to be a nice addition, a friend of mine had a pretty low compression rate in one of the cylinders, but after changing the oil to this one and riding for 100 km or so the compression improved. If I'm not mistaken, this oil helps restore the inner surface of cylinders in case of having small scratches there.
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Re: Synthetic oil?

Postby Snakeoil » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:06 pm

camo wrote:i always thought synthetic was a no no for ball bearings ? too slippery ?


Pure urban legend.
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Re: Synthetic oil?

Postby isldtime » Wed Jun 01, 2016 10:22 pm

I run full Syn. in every combustion engine I own. PERIOD..
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Re: Synthetic oil?

Postby Subsnowden » Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:06 pm

Great video with an awesome demonstration:

https://youtu.be/tYkg0oDUXs8
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Re: Synthetic oil?

Postby Snakeoil » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:55 pm

Best I have seen. This should end oil threads.

Nah...heads can be hard.
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Re: Synthetic oil?

Postby tx2sturgis » Thu Aug 18, 2016 9:20 pm

Synthetic oil is really good for the seller!

Your motorcycle will not be able to tell any difference.

I prefer refined crude oil rather than assembled natural gas oil.

YMMV.
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Re: Synthetic oil?

Postby INSUBORDINATOR » Sun Aug 21, 2016 1:04 pm

MOBIL 1, or AMSOIL, do not declare they are made from Natural Gas. Whatever they are made from, it is a proven scientific fact they lubricate better than fossil oils. Last time I dropped my sump pan it was shiny clean with no sludge, & my final drive stay s quiet & clean. I have noted the improvement in my machinery (including firearms), lubricating with synthetic over the last 30 years. I can no longer afford Amsoil, but Mobil 1 has worked fine.
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Re: Synthetic oil?

Postby tx2sturgis » Sun Aug 21, 2016 4:22 pm

Oh... :|

Yeah I said your motorcycle wont be able to tell the difference. However, I did NOT say that the rider would not notice a difference.

In fact, I, as the rider, always notice the difference. (mostly negative with synthetic)

Oil is like religion, whatever works for you is fine with me.

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Re: Synthetic oil?

Postby Ragmanx1 » Sun Sep 04, 2016 9:39 pm

Lee Pape wrote:I run the cheapest diesel grade dino oil that I can find in 20W-50. The diesel grade used to have more zinc and other good stuff in it.


As far as I Know Delo & Rotello "used to" but not any more.

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